BREXIT

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and Remain lost again

But that wouldn't happen 


The best deal is the one we already have

[YamFazFan]

But that wouldn't happen 

Yeah, yeah we've heard that one before :lol

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[YamFazFan]

I suggest you forward those to Mrs May :lol

[fazersharp]

Yesterday when may went through the list of possibles and she mentioned no brexit there was a massive cheer in the house. All those MPs who campaigned for and won their seat on the back of backing/respecting the referendum. 

[YamFazFan]

Yep that's why a lot of them, especially the Labour MP's in the northern marginals, are so apprehensive about backing a second referendum. They fear the backlash come election time

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All those MPs who campaigned for and won their seat on the back of backing/respecting the referendum. 

I think it was all those MPs who represent Remain majority constituencies. Not including former Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab of course (Esher and Walton 58.4% Remain), Theresa Villiers, former NI secretary (Chipping Barnet 58.9% Remain) etc etc. All continuously voting against the wishes of their constituents.

[steve 10562cc]

Don't know why they bothered with the first referendum MP's never had any intention of leaving the EU what ever the result. Might as well not have any more elections,  referendums, just leave to the MP's and the old boy/girls network and stop pretending we live in a democracy. We had a civil war 400 odd years ago made no difference then and this has made no difference now still run by the old boy network and the secret handshake brigade. :eek  :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek 

[YamFazFan]

All those MPs who campaigned for and won their seat on the back of backing/respecting the referendum. 

I think it was all those MPs who represent Remain majority constituencies. Not including former Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab of course (Esher and Walton 58.4% Remain), Theresa Villiers, former NI secretary (Chipping Barnet 58.9% Remain) etc etc. All continuously voting against the wishes of their constituents.

Don't 401 out of 632 MP's, that's 63%, represent constituencys that voted Leave?

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Don't 401 out of 632 MP's, that's 63%, represent constituencys that voted Leave?

Didn't realise it was a numbers thing. Thought it was about individual responsibility.
OK if it's about numbers, May had her deal rejected (again) by 391 (62%) votes to 242. So without any further changes being agreed with the EU, why are they being asked to vote again?

[YamFazFan]

Didn't realise it was a numbers thing. Thought it was about individual responsibility.

So why critisise Dominic Raab and Theresa Villiers for voting contrary to the majority of their constituents then?

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Um because they also voted against their wishes. You Leavers seem to think responsibility only works in one direction.

[YamFazFan]

Um because they also voted against their wishes.

So with each MP voting in accordance with the wishes of the majority of their constiuents you simply come back to my numbers (401 to 231) then :lol

[YamFazFan]

Amendment calling for new referendum rejected by 334 votes to 85 :lol

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Amendment calling for new referendum rejected by 334 votes to 85

Defeated? Labour just picking their moment  Anyway, no Brexit on 29th March. End of June at least, so plenty of time for things to change.


What you Leavers must remember, is that the only 'deal' that might be passed by Parliament is the transition arrangements. The interim position, which is basically that everything stays the same. Same Customs Union, Single Market, free movement, payments to the EU etc That's for the next 2 years at least while the UK negotiates a full long term relationship with the EU. The EU won't be easy to deal with. May will want a close relationship, and we could easily end up very close, like Norway. Still paying in, still following rules.


You've been duped  :lol

[VNA]

[YamFazFan]

You've been duped  :lol 

In all likelihood Leave will get duped.


The majority of the voters and the constituencys are Leave, but Parliament is overwhelmingly Remain.


Leave won the referendum and have the mandate, but when it comes to the crunch Remain have Parliament :\

[agricola]

Patience good people. The only nation yet to leave the EU was Greenland, and it took them 3 years. Its not over till the fat lady sings, and I cant wait to see the smug smiles wiped off the faces of the arrogant foccers acting against the national interest

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Patience good people. The only nation yet to leave the EU was Greenland, and it took them 3 years. Its not over till the fat lady sings, and I cant wait to see the smug smiles wiped off the faces of the arrogant foccers acting against the national interest

Exactly,  delays because of weak willed politicians just makes our eventual leaving even more pleasing.