09-03-19, 01:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-03-19, 01:46 AM by fazersharp.)
(09-03-19, 01:21 AM)mtread link Wrote: Quote: Yes you would just love that wouldn't you. Have you ever thought that the reason for it could well of been to garner the response that you so readily give without questioning any other motive.
Sorry I genuinely haven't a clue what you are on about? Are we actually celebrating the death of a child? I am saying that it would not surprise me if it was IS that are behind it, do you not put it past them ? you think for one second they would not blink at the opportunity ? They are well versed in propaganda which is one of the reasons she was lured out there in the first place. And your reaction is exactly what they are hoping for.
Quote: Hmm. Innocent British citizen dies abroad due to home secretary's illegal ruling, and nobody gives a fuck. Welcome to Hostile Britain
You should watch that your jerking knee does not knock over your champagne or kir royal
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
09-03-19, 02:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-03-19, 02:11 AM by dazza.)
Just out of interest, did anyone actually see her child ?
Because all I ever saw was her holding a bundle of rags.
If indeed a child was ever in there, she would of suffocated it weeks ago.
As said before mtread and VNA, if you feel that strongly about it and are that offended and outraged, go change your tampons, open your doors and invite all the traitorous fuckers into your homes. 
(26-02-19, 10:57 PM)VNA link Wrote: Quote: Seriously though, whatever your opinion of TR or Stephen Laxley Lennon, it's certainly a revealing and damning expose of the the underhand techniques being used to portray someone as something they're not.
Some people are too far gone to accept anything other that what they want (VNA) but I had you down as more intelligent than that.
So, so called Tommy Robinson, a man who doesn’t even operate under his own name. A man, a known football hooligan, with multiple convictions for assault, traveling under false papers, fraud and contempt of court and not to mention has further legal action pending. A man who is a known racist, a drug user, has lead an organisation that has promoted fascism, racism and violence which just so happened to be riddled with paedophiles, is the man you tell us that is going to show us the truth.
Really!?
"....so called Tommy Robinson, a man who doesn't even operate under his own name...."
Says VNA....... :rollin
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Hang on a minute, how did the child die in the camp? Wasn't it reported last week that she had left the camp and was in hiding due to other " jihadist brides" threatening to kill her ?
Or was that just a publicity stunt to try for more misplaced sympaphy ?
Of course all the conspiracy theories coming out now. There never was a child, IS killed it etc etc.
Well it's quite clear from today's reports it died of pneumonia.
And yes I'm quite happy to drink champagne thank you, rather than the bile some are clearly consuming :lol
09-03-19, 12:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-03-19, 12:58 PM by VNA.)
Quote:I am saying that it would not surprise me if it was IS that are behind it, do you not put it past them ? you think for one second they would not blink at the opportunity ? They are well versed in propaganda which is one of the reasons she was lured out there in the first place. And your reaction is exactly what they are hoping for.
Quote:Just out of interest, did anyone actually see her child ?
Because all I ever saw was her holding a bundle of rags.
If indeed a child was ever in there, she would of suffocated it weeks ago.
From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47500387 ;
Quote:The baby son of Shamima Begum - who fled London to join the Islamic State group - has died, a spokesman for the Syrian Democratic Forces has said.
The group, which runs the camp where the teenager has been living, confirmed the death on Friday.
The baby died of pneumonia, according to a medical certificate. He was less than three weeks old.
Quote:A paramedic working for the Kurdish Red Crescent in the camp told the BBC that the baby, called Jarrah, had been suffering from breathing difficulties.
He was taken to a doctor on Thursday morning before being transferred to hospital, along with his mother, but died at 13:30 local time that day, the medical worker added.
Ms Begum has since returned to the camp and her child was buried there yesterday.
Quote:"Children should not suffer, so if a parent does lose their British citizenship it does not affect the rights of their child."
Sajid Javid
That’s about as twisted a statement as you are ever likely to see.
(09-03-19, 11:10 AM)mtread link Wrote: Of course all the conspiracy theories coming out now. There never was a child, IS killed it etc etc.
Well it's quite clear from today's reports it died of pneumonia. No conspiracy here - that is just another tactic that goes in the book just under racist. I question everything and everyone. Good for you that you believe the reports you are told if it makes you happy.Wasn't there a queue of journalists waiting outside her tent to interview her- strange there were no reports of the baby being ill which if were true surely that would of been jumped on by her supporters and used.And that is another point - no one has seen a baby - only a pile of rags - not even a face seen.Wasn't she first interviewed whilst supposedly pregnant.
This does not smell right.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
Jesus Fucking Christ Fazersharp. Sometimes you really are just a wee bit thick. :lol
The death has been confirmed by the Democratic Syrian Forces who run the camp.
It has further been confirmed by the Kurdish Red Crescent.
The UK government have issued a statement.
(09-03-19, 01:19 PM)VNA link Wrote: Jesus Fucking Christ Fazersharp. Sometimes you really are just a wee bit thick. :lol
The death has been confirmed by the Democratic Syrian Forces who run the camp.
It has further been confirmed by the Kurdish Red Crescent.
The UK government have issued a statement. "A Baby" - she was never even pregnant.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
Quote:Clearly Shamima Begum holds abhorrent views and to want to join Islamic State is beyond all comprehension, but she was a child, a product of our society.
I think we had a moral responsibility to her and indeed to her baby. That is why at the time I was just troubled by the decision. It seemed driven by a sort of populism, not any principle I recognise.
Conservative MP Phillip Lee
Quote:The camps have been overwhelmed as more and more flee the last remaining areas of Isis. More than 62,000 are now living in al-Hol camp, surpassing its capacity and leaving thousands sleeping out in the cold.
It has also been announced that 100 people have died over the past two months on their way to the camp or shortly after arriving, two thirds being babies and infants.
Aid groups have been sounding the alarm over conditions in the camp for weeks. The International Rescue Committee (IRC), which operates at al-Hol, said it was now at “breaking point”.
“We have seen a staggering number of children die on the journey to al-Hol camp due to a combination of malnutrition and hypothermia,” said Misty Buswell, the IRC’s Middle East advocacy director. “There is now an urgent need for thousands more family tents to get to al-Hol to help shelter the latest arrivals as well as increased funding to support the health crisis unfolding at the camp.”
Many of those arriving at the camp are in extremely poor health, the IRC added. There have been hundreds of cases of malnutrition and diarrhoea, including 364 infants under the age of five.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...14091.html
The only person to blame is herself, she went to Syria, had three children with her Isis terrorist husband , all who have died, has no regrets or remorse.
Pointing the finger at other people is just political point scoring, achieves nothing and just shows once again that there are a lot of tossers out there that think it is perfectly alright to not take responsibity for your own actions and choices in life.
Quote: "A Baby" - she was never even pregnant.
Fazersharp - go and have a lie down...... now :rolleyes
Quote: The only person to blame is herself, she went to Syria, had three children with her Isis terrorist husband , all who have died, has no regrets or remorse.Pointing the finger at other people is just political point scoring, achieves nothing and just shows once again that there are a lot of tossers out there that think it is perfectly alright to not take responsibity for your own actions and choices in life.
The only person not to blame is the child. Which could have lived, had the right thing been done.
(09-03-19, 01:56 PM)mtread link Wrote: Quote: The only person to blame is herself, she went to Syria, had three children with her Isis terrorist husband , all who have died, has no regrets or remorse.Pointing the finger at other people is just political point scoring, achieves nothing and just shows once again that there are a lot of tossers out there that think it is perfectly alright to not take responsibity for your own actions and choices in life.
The only person not to blame is the child. Which could have lived, had the right thing been done.
After two children had already died she got pregnant again, no thoughts of what might happen to a third child.
Let’s face it Sajid Javid let that baby child, a British citizen, die. All because he wanted to appeal to popular sentiment. Shame on him.
(09-03-19, 02:07 PM)VNA link Wrote: Let’s face it Sajid Javid let that baby child, a British citizen, die. All because he wanted to appeal to popular sentiment. Shame on him.
Err, the baby's mother let that child die - assuming she hadn't claimed another ISIS fighter's dead baby was hers.
You can't be using the British Citizen route again. The British Citizen mother decided "bollocks to all British Citizen - they all deserve to die".
Maybe we should be defining the moral values a British Citizen should hold.
Those are my principles...if you don't like them I have others.
Quote: After two children had already died she got pregnant again, no thoughts of what might happen to a third child.
Hmm, I strongly suspect your 19th century British ancestors faced exactly the same problem. Lucky for you one survived.
Quote: assuming she hadn't claimed another ISIS fighter's dead baby was hers.
Dear o dear. A few weeks ago when all this started she was seen on television as visibly pregnant. Or was that just a cushion stuffed up her hijab?
Honestly, why not just rewrite the truth to support your own opinion
(09-03-19, 02:20 PM)mtread link Wrote: Quote: After two children had already died she got pregnant again, no thoughts of what might happen to a third child.
Hmm, I strongly suspect your 19th century British ancestors faced exactly the same problem. Lucky for you one survived.
Exactly, the values Isis and too many other muslims hold dear belong in the 19th century and earlier.
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