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[steve 10562cc]

VNA your views appear just as unpleasant to quite a few of us as his are to most of us,  but from the other side of the coin. 

[VNA]

VNA your views appear just as unpleasant to quite a few of us as his are to most of us,  but from the other side of the coin. 

Firstly, on such matters it is best to speak for yourself.  Let others decide what their view is.


I understand that most people express their political views online looking for agreement and approval.  I further understand that some people have difficulty in accepting that others may not agree with them.  That others may not share their view.

As for drawing some sort of parallel between my views and those of SCLY.  Well surprise surprise I don’t agree with you Steve.

I have no criminal convictions.  I am not violent.  I am neither a thug nor a thief.  Nor am I racist or a bigot. 



To suggest I am in some way as unpleasant as SCYL is a wee bit beyond the pale Steve.

[fazersharp]

This is the parallel between your views and those of SCLY. I found it when I googled what you had said before.

Though in terms of protecting our youth it puzzles me that nobody is concerned about Saudi and our other ME allies.  Saudi sells us shit loads of oil, we also happen to sell them a shit load of arms which they have recently used extensively and indiscriminately in Yemen.  But most worrying of all if you follow the cash it was Saudi along with certain other ME allies that funded ISIS.
The other issue is this so called ‘radicalisation’ that is occurring in some of our Muslim communities.  We have sat back and allowed the Saudi’s to spread their sick disgusting Wahhabist murderous ideology  around the globe.  They have spent a small, sorry a large fortune right across Europe building mosques and installing their own Saudi Wahhabist Iman’s in them.
So really, I don’t give a shit about Shamina Begum, she’s just a stupid young woman taken in by Saudi funded ideology that we have happily financed and encouraged.
I don't understand why people arn't angry about that.

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 need to get yourself a whisky - no water - one piece of ice, prepare yourself with a virtue signalling sick bucket if you must, and view the vid because its mirrors pretty much what you have said. 

[VNA]

need to get yourself a whisky - no water - one piece of ice, prepare yourself with a virtue signalling sick bucket if you must, and view the vid because its mirrors pretty much what you have said. 

Please refer to reply #137
Thank-you.

[slappy]

VNA your views appear just as unpleasant to quite a few of us as his are to most of us,  but from the other side of the coin. 

Firstly, on such matters it is best to speak for yourself.  Let others decide what their view is.

We do have our own view but you keep trying to infer we are stupid , misled, racist , fascists because we have a view that you do not agree with.

[VNA]

We do have our own view but you keep trying to infer we are stupid, misled, racist , fascists because we have a view that you do not agree with.

I’m not in the business of calling people racist, fascist or whatever etc etc.  However, I will call out what I consider to be unreasonable views.  And, umm, we do actually have people openly and repeatedly promoting a little fascist fuck called  SCYL right here on this forum.


It’s also a sign that one has lost the argument when one begins to attack the individual.  Rather than address the substance Slappy you are complaining that I am being unreasonable in not agreeing with you.


So with that in thought, can we all agree, that once again, I am correct, this time with respect to Shamima, put this thread to bed, and get back to talking bikes.

[fazersharp]

  And, umm, we do actually have people openly and repeatedly promoting a little fascist fuck called  SCYL right here on this forum.

No one is promoting him. Anyone who reads what you said and then sees the vid will see that what you have said and what the "little fascist fuck" says are almost identical.
The only putting to bed should be VNA - go on get a torch and watch it under the covers - no one will know.
How is it that the far right and the extreme left can share the same views yet one is racist and the other is not. Either they both are or they are both not.
Or are they schrodinger's racists. 

[VNA]

No one is promoting him.

You just posted one of his silly little videos.

[mtread]

How is it that the far right and the extreme left can share the same views yet one is racist and the other is not.

I don't understand this bit. Who is extreme left?

[dazza]

:rollin :rollin  And there was me thinking you was partially educated.  :lol

[VNA]

I don't understand this bit. Who is extreme left?

Indeed.

[dazza]

And, umm, we do actually have people openly and repeatedly promoting a little fascist fuck called  SCYL right here on this forum

Let's just get things very clear VNA.
This is everything that TR is standing up against.
You can bury your head in the sand or stand up and be counted.
I have no shame in supporting anyone who is willing to stand up against this.
Take a good long look in the mirror and ask yourself what you stand up against.


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[mtread]

I stand up against terrorists, rapists and evil states..... whatever their religion.
It seems SYL and his friends are a little more fussy as to who they criticise,  and who they don't.

[darrsi]

I stand up against terrorists, rapists and evil states..... whatever their religion.
It seems SYL and his friends are a little more fussy as to who they criticise,  and who they don't.

The young lady in question is more than likely a potential terrorist....to make a point.
I cannot and will not trust her.
I couldn't give a monkeys about her age, she's a wrong'un!

[dazza]

I stand up against terrorists, rapists and evil states..... whatever their religion.
It seems SYL and his friends are a little more fussy as to who they criticise,  and who they don't.

And it seems for a very good reason unless you choose to ignore facts.


Just take a look at the statistics of the ethnicity of grooming gangs and then dig a little deeper.


These are facts, not  predudice or fantasy.


You as a left wing liberal can deny and refuse to discuss the truth all day long but believe me ..... It's only a matter of time before everyone will be aware of the truth.


Let's see where you stand then.

[Val]

Why are you bringing up windrush - this has nothing to do with it.

Convincing.
Point us to one white guy deported to Sunderland for smoking weed then  :lol

[slappy]

We do have our own view but you keep trying to infer we are stupid, misled, racist , fascists because we have a view that you do not agree with.

So with that in thought, can we all agree, that once again, I am correct, this time with respect to Shamima, put this thread to bed, and get back to talking bikes.

And there you have it, the" I am right and you are wrong so shut up"  argument of the political zealots the world over.

[mtread]

Just take a look at the statistics of the ethnicity of grooming gangs and then dig a little deeper.

And as I have already pointed out, you like SYL,  choose to turn a blind eye to the prosecuted groomers, child rapists and sex offenders that are EDL,  BNP members and supporters of SYL.
It's called being anti-Islamic, which is apparently OK, unlike anti-semitism.

[VNA]

And there you have it, the" I am right and you are wrong so shut up"  argument of the political zealots the world over.

Slappy, your view is that you are unhappy that I do not share your view.  That is not an argument.


The facts are that it is illegal to make somebody stateless.  Sajid Javid has decided that he can trump the law, and has made Shamima stateless.  I strongly suspect that he will have to back down.  The reason that he is doing this is to play to an audience. 



The Kurdish fighters who have played a huge part in defeating ISIS currently hold thousands of foreign fighters in Syria.  It is against their Muslim religion and ideology to harm captured enemy fighters, but they do not have the structure or means to deliver justice.  Syria after all has been laid to waste.  Kurdish officials have stated;

We cannot bear this responsibility alone. We ask the international community and the countries to which Isis members belong to take up its moral and legal duty and repatriate their citizens back to their countries.

Unfortunately, life is not black and white.  Sometimes doing the right thing stinks.  That means taking our citizens back.  If they have committed crimes then they should be tried and jailed. 



If we fail in our responsibility then the reality is that these fighters may be recycled and ISIS or some other form of Wahhabist terrorist force may remerge elsewhere, or these people will return to the UK and other countries under the radar.


So yeah I’m putting forward a strong argument.  But apparently my thinking things through and coming to a considered opinion, rather than just ranting ‘let her rot in hell’ is unpleasant.  And that seems to be about the best you can do.

[VNA]

And it seems for a very good reason unless you choose to ignore facts.


Just take a look at the statistics of the ethnicity of grooming gangs and then dig a little deeper.


These are facts, not  predudice or fantasy.


You as a left wing liberal can deny and refuse to discuss the truth all day long but believe me ..... It's only a matter of time before everyone will be aware of the truth.


Let's see where you stand then.

You may have seen on the news recently the conclusion of the trial in relation to the rape and murder of a 6-year-old child on Bute.  The ferry to the idyllic island of Bute is just a few miles up the road from me.  There is a small Syrian refugee community on the island.  Not long after the shocking news broke of this most horrific crime social media was buzzing with rumours and open accusations pointing the finger at Bute’s small Syrian community.  SCYL supporter Katie Hopkins was prominent in pointing the finger, without a shred of evidence, at Bute’s Syrians.  She also stated, again without a shred of evidence, that a recent rise in sexual offenses was all down the Syrians on Bute.  Next thing there’s a twitter storm and those innocent families found themselves living in fear.
Guess what the Syrians had nothing whatsoever to do with the shocking murder of Aleshia.
And guess what again, the statistics that Katie Hopkins referred to in relation to sexual offenses in Argyle and Bute were for the period before the Syrians were settled on Bute.
It’s called racism Dazza.  And racists like Katie Hopkins and SCYL are absolute utter scum.