BREXIT

[VNA]

Odd isnt it, how members from the 2 major parties can now join the same independent party. One suspects that the ex labour people were always free market capitalists anyway, and sat uncomfortably in the labour group. Blairites i reckon.

Indeed, hence they feel comfortable sitting down with Tories.  This looks like an attempt to re-create New Labour.


I mean Chuka Umunna – a Tory in the Labour party or what.  Good riddance.

[unfazed]

[quote author=mtread link=topic=24678.msg292930#msg292930 date=1550690200]
What I wasn't aware was that there were a bunch of undercover socialists in the Conservative party.

Yes it's quite incredible what passes some people by. For example, unfazed wasn't aware of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party

3 of the Labour MP's who are part of the new independent party....
" Anti-Semitism is rife and tolerated"
"Labour is riddled with anti-Semitism"
"I cannot remain in a party that I have come to the conclusion is institutionally anti-Semitic"
[/quote]
I think you totally missed the intended sarcasm  :'( :rollin

[YamFazFan]

[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=24678.msg292933#msg292933 date=1550690797]
[quote author=mtread link=topic=24678.msg292930#msg292930 date=1550690200]
What I wasn't aware was that there were a bunch of undercover socialists in the Conservative party.

Yes it's quite incredible what passes some people by. For example, unfazed wasn't aware of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party

3 of the Labour MP's who are part of the new independent party....
" Anti-Semitism is rife and tolerated"
"Labour is riddled with anti-Semitism"
"I cannot remain in a party that I have come to the conclusion is institutionally anti-Semitic"
[/quote]
I think you totally missed the intended sarcasm  :'( :rollin
[/quote]


Yep my apologies :o .

[celticdog]

Splinter groups meh it's been tried before. Anyone remember the SDP? The gang of four, never amounted to much and they where much higher profile politicians than the Blairite goons of today.

[mtread]

I mean Chuka Umunna – a Tory in the Labour party or what.  Good riddance.

Now on that point I will have to disagree 

[VNA]

Splinter groups meh it's been tried before. Anyone remember the SDP?

Aye, I remember that.  Thought I should add I was still at school at the time.  :lol



Dunno if you saw Anna Soubry being interviewed by Kirsty Wark on newsnight this evening.  It was literally laugh out loud funny.  I mean seriously surreal and wet your pants funny (well for political anoraks anyway)



I dunno where this is going.  There are the Tories in the Labour party who just can’t shift Jeremy, then there’s the REMAINERS banging their heids against the wall in frustration at his refusal to stop BREXIT.


On the other side there is a majority in the Tory party who may refuse the whip come a NO DEAL scenario.


And in the meantime big companies like Honda have lost patience, have decided the UK is a lost cause and are about to foc off.


Oh the joys of BREXIT.

[ogri48]

At least we got our bikes mate, and summer is coming...

[mtread]

On the other side there is a majority in the Tory party who may refuse the whip come a NO DEAL scenario.

Dominic Grieve just said so on Newsnight
What worries me most is May's tactics. I'm convinced she won't let No Deal happen, but she's not telling anybody. She's getting more desperate by the minute to keep the ERG and DUP on side hoping that the EU will give her some weasel words. But they won't. She's delaying and delaying hoping for a thin majority in Parliament to support her deal, but there are now so many conflicting groups the numbers aren't at all clear.
As a result she's gambling big time taking us to the brink and no sign of a plan. We're doomed

[VNA]

We’re doomed, aye we’re aw doomed, ah tell ye, foccin doomed!

[VNA]

At least we got our bikes mate, and summer is coming... [img alt=]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif[/img]

Have you seen what they call foccin summer up here?
Yes well, if you still have a job.  If you are able to pay for the increased cost in motorcycles.  And yeah, I may have to make do wi ma 2004 thou as new bike prices slip oot o reach. 



There’s always the 74 C90 hiding in the corner of the garage if things get real bad. 



BREXIT, what a joy.  Thanks orgri, thanks for voting for mass poverty.  Thanks for making us all poorer 8)

[mtread]

We’re doomed, aye we’re aw doomed, ah tell ye, foccin doomed!

Now look here. We don't want that sort of talk round here Fraser! 

[YamFazFan]

And in the meantime big companies like Honda have lost patience, have decided the UK is a lost cause and are about to foc off.


Oh the joys of BREXIT.

In their statement Honda said it was nothing to do with Brexit. Are you saying that they are lying?.

[YamFazFan]

BREXIT, what a joy.  Thanks orgri, thanks for voting for mass poverty.  Thanks for making us all poorer 8)

The other day you said you didn't blame the electorate and it was the fault of those who granted the people a referendum in the first place.


Why the change of mind?

[YamFazFan]

but the Labour party is not riddled with ‘anti-Semitism’. 



Ask for the evidence of 'anti-semitism' and you will find little or none.  (just updated that to make it clearer VNA)

You might like to think that this is a non-issue, but to those on the receiving end of the vile abuse it's sadly all too real.


Shocking attitude.

[YamFazFan]

You critisize people for taking part in a democratic vote [img width=20 height=20 alt=:rolleyes]http://foc-u.co.uk/file:///C:/Users/garet/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/img]

Nope.  My criticism is that it was offered in the first place.  It should have never been offered

[fazersharp]

Some of the group of 11 want a "peoples vote" yet wont put themselves forward for re -election after leaving the party on which they gained their seat  :rolleyes

[fazersharp]

Anna Soubery is on LBC as the presenter right now.

[ogri48]

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BREXIT, what a joy.  Thanks orgri, thanks for voting for mass poverty.  Thanks for making us all poorer 8)

No, hes right, its all my fault. Its like when all those middle class corbynista kids at uni tell me about what its like for poor people in this country, as they turn up in their new cars (despite never having worked a day in their lives)that the "Brexit loving Nazi capitalist pigs" (their parents) have bought them. Me, having watched my mum go without food as a kid to feed me and my sisters, I aint got a fucking clue.[/quote]

[mtread]

In their statement Honda said it was nothing to do with Brexit. Are you saying that they are lying?.

Yes.

[mtread]

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The ERG left the Conservative Party months ago [/size]