Fowlers/Bristol/ cb1000r

[dazza]

You must have borrowed Kitcrazy's ultra small tent.

Every opportunity and that... :lol

[VNA]

Umm, nice tent.
But what about the bike Dazza?
Whatdayathink?

[dazza]

I'm all for Honda..... But not this model I'm afraid.
My brothers got a CRF 450 which is the nuts, I've had CR250's and 500's, both are epic motocross bikes.
I've never ridden a late Honda road bike bike so my opinion doesn't really count for anything but I just don't like the styling.
The exhaust looks shite and I don't like the headlamp design.
The proof is always in the riding and obviously having never ridden one  I can't really comment.
It just doesn't float my boat.
0% finance packages are always a winner but give me an MT10 cross plane,  short wheel base , hooligan machine  over this all day long.
I heard a rumour that the 2020 model is up on power and torque and a few other little tweaks like auto blipper and TFT colour dash as standard. Don't know how true this is but.....
Nah.....Yamaha win top trumps for me I'm afraid.

[VNA]

Fair enougth.
Love naked bikes with a good old roond headlight myself.

[robbo]

If it's of any interest, the March edition of Ride magazine has a back to back article on the MT10 v CB1000R.

[ogri48]

Here we go.  Off fae a week or twa;

that actually looks pretty good..

[VNA]

If it's of any interest, the March edition of Ride magazine has a back to back article on the MT10 v CB1000R.

I might need to have a look at that.

that actually looks pretty good..

The panniers look fine.  Can't find a picture of it with just the box.  Also wonder if a tail tidy works with the Givi racks fitted.  I'm not a fan of tail tidies but that number plate holder is dreadful.

[ogri48]

you seriously thinking of getting one mate?
Thats a lot of Wonga. Or perhaps its not...in 1996 at the NEC I was seduced by the latest incarnation of the blade (rr-t with the new 918 lump). I bught a new one for (ulp) £9250. By next summer they had been reduced to just over seven grand because of the impact of paralell imports.. :'( :'( :'(

[VNA]

Yeah I remember buying a mint low mileage one year old CBR600F in, I think, 1995.  I think I paid about 5k for it.  Rode it for best part of two years, stuck 15k on it and sold it 4.6k  The yen kept rising in value driving the prices up.  That was when I tried to give up bikes.  I was finished.  No more of tht nonsense :\  Yeah I remember the prices going through the roof, can’t remember but I think the Japanese economy overheated, crashed and the yen tumbled.  The dealers didn’t want to drop the prices cos the value of their used stock would be wiped out which would in turn wipe them out – so they kept the prices up and the grey importers moved in and wiped em out anyway.


I lasted a summer or two without a bike, then bought a 600 Fazer :lol


But yeah trying to persuade myself to get out there and test drive a couple of bikes – probably MT10 and CB1000R.  Haven’t bought a bike since I bought the thou new in 2004. (cost 6k pre reg)  If it wasn’t for you know what, both theses bikes would be retailing for list price about 10k, not 12k.  But what can you do?  Need some half decent weather.



I could be tempted by a used or ex-demo CB1000R neo.  But I start laughing when I see the ticket prices dealers are putting on used MT10’s.  So I suspect an MT10 would probably have to be new. 

[ogri48]

howsabout a hardly dangerous...… its a blatant mt01 copy mind..

[ogri48]

[coffee]

I thought you was posting the same bike with another for a minute,what a rip off!!

[VNA]

You know I’m looking at that HD thinking that looks OK.  Not something that often happens with me.  Apparently, it’s 975cc and water-cooled, not due out to 2020.


I struggle to find any modern bike I fancy and ticks the boxes for me.  MT10 and CB1000R are all I can come up with at the mo.  The Katana that’s due out very shortly looks interesting, but comes with a 13ltr fuel tank.  So that won’t be any use.

[VNA]

If it's of any interest, the March edition of Ride magazine has a back to back article on the MT10 v CB1000R.

Cheers, checked it out.  Basically, they preferred the CB1000R.  They described the MT10 as always wanting a scrap, a bit intimidating, not for the faint hearted.  Whereas the Honda was sure footed and confidence inspiring, whilst obviously still being a quick bike, if not as quick as the MT10.


However, they are testing in winter, and admitted they might be fighting over the keys to the MT10 come the summer.


Makes me wonder how much of a bleedin beast is this MT10 thing.

[Dudeofrude]

Makes me wonder how much of a bleedin beast is this MT10 thing.

To be honest I don't personally get all the whoo harr about it. Me and 2 friends took some MT-10s out at Motorcycle live last year and none of us were particularly impressed.
Between us we ride a Fz1, Gsxr-750 & Bandit 1200 and it was only the guy with the bandit that thought ithe MT was a fast bike.
I can honestly say it didn't feel any more aggressive than my Fz1.
That's not to say it was a bad bike or anything but I wouldn't bother selling mine to buy one.
And it may be just me but I think it's a hell of an ugly s.o.b. I much prefer the honda looks wise. I even prefer the old cb1000r to the MT

[VNA]

Cheers Dude. Interesting comments.


Looks wise I hated the MT10 when I first saw it, just another modern mess, but then you notice after a while that a lot of thought has gone into the styling, it does have a theme and it flows from front to back.  But then there are so many nooks and crannies, how the heck would you keep it clean(ish).  Also, on the down side, a lot of bits seems to have just been stuck on at the last minute.

That CB1000R you have posted, to me, is just mingin.  It’s a cracking example of taking a good concept, powerful compact engine mounted in a light spine frame with a single sided swing arm.  Off to a great start, but then they start making it look as silly and ugly as possible.  I mean what is that thing on it’s nose about, the lightening plastic and the god awful colour scheme.  Buy hey each to their own.


But the latest CB1000R – same basic theme – looks so good!

[ogri48]

I suppose with that Harley it depends if they price it like they do the "big twins", or much more realistically like the entry level ones the purist look down their noses at.  For now, I reckon your bang on with the new cb.
Honda quality still outweighs the rest imho, and having read that same comparison test, if I was after summat of that ilk, that would be the one id go for. The clincher was seeing it in the flesh mate...photos really don't do it justice

[VNA]

Aye it does look lovely.  Timeless good looks;

[VNA]

Apparently the downpipes are single skin and turn black though. 

[ogri48]

ah thats a shame. Honda must be compromising a bit nowadays. :rolleyes
Remember when super nakeds that used superbike engines had lumps that looked like the back of a washing machine..all functional pipework etc that looked utter shite without a fairing to cover it up lol.
They've certainly got it sussed now...that motah looks the mutts