Quote:VNA I followed your utube link and ended up finding something interesting. I do not agree with the yobish behaviour but why would She take the same route as before after coming off the bbc stage knowing what happened last time, I think the idiots fell right into an orchestrated trap designed so it could be an excuse to call in extra police and shut down the protesters.Here is the utube link. What do you make of it.
Yeah an uncover policeman made em all behave like that.
They ain't shutting down the protests. You can look at it another way, the extra police are there to ensure that legitimate protest can take place.
These football holigans, as that is what they are, would like nothing more than to see the right to protest outside parliament withdrawn.
Fazersharp, this happens all the time.
I've seen with my own eyes antifa insulting and attacking TR supporters, male and female and when there's an expected reaction, MSM cameras suddenly appear out of nowhere to capture the reaction.
Yes, of course it's orchestrated and the police and security forces are well versed in this tactic.
Then you have VNA......the pretend voice of reasonable, rational thought, venomously shouting down any extreme behaviour from the right but mention the same behaviour from his own countrymen and you can tell from his text that he all of a sudden thinks it's ok for certain people with opposing views to be under threat or intimidation.
Typical double standards and so blatantly obvious.
Of course, their self righteous smoke screen blinds them to the fact that this is just as bad as the very thing they are shouting down.
I think it's funny, it amuses the fuck out of me.
Rattling VNA's cage is such a great pastime.
He's so predictable. :lol
Quote:I've seen with my own eyes antifa insulting and attacking TR supporters, male and female and when there's an expected reaction, MSM cameras suddenly appear out of nowhere to capture the reaction.
So were you with them?
Quote:Groups who have joined the effort to keep Yaxley-Lennon away include Stand Up to Racism Scotland, Hearts Lads and Lassies against Fascism, Show Racism the Red Card Scotland, The Muslim Council of Scotland, and Edinburgh and Lothian Regional Equality Council.
Luke Henderson, from Unite Against Fascism Edinburgh, said the number of people who would welcome the activist to Scottish football represented a “miniscule number of racists”.
He said: “He’s a dangerous, far-right campaigner with a lengthy criminal record. He seeks to inflame Islamophobia and wider racism. There is no place for him in Scotland, or Scottish football.”
Read more at http://thirdforcenews.org.uk/tfn-news/gr...LDwh6Fb.99
I'm more than happy that the filthy racist bastard that is Yaxley-Lennon is not welcome in Scotland.
09-01-19, 02:24 PM
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First of all VNA, it doesn't matter whether I was with "them" or not. Being there, doesn't make you guilty of anything or labelled as anything.
What you don't know, is what I do for a living and where my work takes me.
Let's just say that I was in the vicinity of Trafalgar Square on one occasion when people marched against the arrest of Tommy Robinson.
I saw with my own eyes the vast majority of those people were normal, peaceful citizens of every race, gender,age and country who were against the arrest and treatment of him.
On the first one, estimates were over 40 000.
I saw thuggish and embarrassing behaviour from some of his supporters, a large contingent were in fact football supporters.
However, I never saw any of them start trouble.
I saw the police trying to kettle them, I saw, undercover police trying to rile them up. I saw antifa being allowed to enter an exclusion zone and cause havoc.
I saw an elderly TR supporter assaulted by one in an unprovoked attack and channel 4 cameras waiting in the wings to capture the reaction.
I spoke to normal bobbies who in their own words were just their for the money and I saw menacing looking police sargents pacing between them trying to impose their own agenda and interpretation of anything the speakers were saying.
I saw, what I can only describe as a bunch of boozed up football hooligans throw beer cans at police horses and riot police after being pushed and kettled and they are the ones who don't represent and are an embarrassment.
I'm not going to defend them because their wrong.
What have you seen VNA.....fuck all. Only what the MSM wants you to see and what you want to believe.
You see, what your trying to do is paint me the same as them in an attempt to discredit me.
Anyone on here who has met and knows me well enough knows what I do for a living and why I would be in the area.
I certainly don't have to justify myself to you.
Quote:Let's just say that I was in the vicinity of Trafalgar Square on one occasion when people marched against the arrest of Tommy Robinson.
Fuck SYL and fuck his supporters too.
Quote:What have you seen VNA.....fuck all. Only what the MSM wants you to see and what you want to believe.
You don't know what I have or have not seen. You don't know me.
Quote:I saw with my own eyes the vast majority of those people were normal, peaceful citizens of every race, gender,age and country who were against the arrest and treatment of him.
Every race, gender, age and country? Ya fud :lol
That bloke in the vid looked (to me) definitely a cop or at least someone planted there to help stir things up, search other footage of him at black rod entrance and he is the first to shout "scum" whilst looking around for support and with one hand to the right of his mouth to direct his voice to the crowd,it dose look like he put something in her staff members pocket, even if he did not there was no reaction by that staff member, nobody knows the mystery bloke, he seemed to be on his own but he has been seen before if he does not appear again then it looks like he is defiantly a "plant"
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
Quote:That bloke in the vid looked (to me) definitely a cop or at least someone planted there to help stir things up, search other footage of him at black rod entrance and he is the first to shout "scum" whilst looking around for support and with one hand to the right of his mouth to direct his voice to the crowd,it dose look like he put something in her staff members pocket, even if he did not there was no reaction by that staff member, nobody knows the mystery bloke, he seemed to be on his own but he has been seen before if he does not appear again then it looks like he is defiantly a "plant"
Firstly who cares. These people are scum. Pure and simple.
I don't know if you've ever been involved in a protest or direct action (though the reality is that this is neither) but one thing you make sure of is who is around you.
Quote: Yes there's disgraceful behaviour on the Remain side. They haven't come out of all this with a lot of credibility.
What? :eek They shouldn't have targeted Rees-Mogg's family, but apart from that? What waving EU flags from across the road?
How many Leave supporting MPs have been threatened with murder and rape?
Perhaps you could come up with some examples of equivalent 'disgraceful Remain behaviour'
Remain can get 700,000 protesters on the street without incident. Leave can't even get 20 without it kicking off.
Leave attracts the nasty extreme right wing. Should there be a second referendum, the public will associate Leave with this scum.
Oh and RIP Jo Cox
I'm referring to Remain trying to overturn/reverse the vote to leave and cheat us out of Brexit.
Disgraceful.
(09-01-19, 03:32 PM)VNA link Wrote: I don't know if you've ever been involved in a protest or direct action (though the reality is that this is neither) but one thing you make sure of is who is around you. Gay pride marches don't count VNA :lol
Quote:Gay pride marches don't count VNA [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
Homophobic Dazza? What a surprise!
09-01-19, 06:42 PM
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(09-01-19, 06:32 PM)VNA link Wrote: Quote:Gay pride marches don't count VNA [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
Homophobic Dazza? What a surprise! (09-01-19, 01:28 PM)dazza link Wrote: Rattling VNA's cage is such a great pastime.
He's so predictable. :lol
:lol How predictable :lol
(09-01-19, 03:32 PM)VNA link Wrote: Quote:That bloke in the vid looked (to me) definitely a cop or at least someone planted there to help stir things up, search other footage of him at black rod entrance and he is the first to shout "scum" whilst looking around for support and with one hand to the right of his mouth to direct his voice to the crowd,it dose look like he put something in her staff members pocket, even if he did not there was no reaction by that staff member, nobody knows the mystery bloke, he seemed to be on his own but he has been seen before if he does not appear again then it looks like he is defiantly a "plant"
Firstly who cares. These people are scum. Pure and simple. Yes they are but the point is that YOU are being played just as much as the protesters are, that undercover agitator is there to whip them up - which in turn whips up the far left which then allows the establishment to clamp down in a way that otherwise would not be tolerated. You need to control your left knee-jerk because as you yourself are always keen to point out ---you are kicking out at the wrong people.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
Quote:that undercover agitator is there to whip them up
The so called undercover agitator is one of them. Doh.
(09-01-19, 07:08 PM)VNA link Wrote: Quote:that undercover agitator is there to whip them up
The so called undercover agitator is one of them. Doh. Is he - have they found out who he is.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
Just watching the news and they were saying how anything can happen between now and the end of March.
Parliament voted to give the public a referendum. Leave won it. Parliament voted to trigger Article 50.
How's it possible that anything can happen?. We're leaving aren't we?. Have I missed something here? :rolleyes
Quote:Just watching the news and they were saying how anything can happen between now and the end of March.
Well yes. The government is now being voted down on an almost daily basis. This is unprecedented.
Quote:Parliament voted to give the public a referendum. Leave won it. Parliament voted to trigger Article 50.
Indeed.
Quote:How's it possible that anything can happen?. We're leaving aren't we?. Have I missed something here? [img alt=:rolleyes width=20 height=20]http://foc-u.co.uk/file:///C:/Users/garet/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/img]
Clearly you haven’t been paying attention.
Quote: I'm referring to Remain trying to overturn/reverse the vote to leave and cheat us out of Brexit.
Disgraceful.
No comparison with what's going on outside Parliament, and it's no excuse either.
Anyway it seems Parliament is doing just that 
'No Deal' is fast becoming no deal 
Waiting for the 700,000 Leave supporters to protest in Trafalgar Square....
(09-01-19, 10:59 PM)VNA link Wrote: Quote:How's it possible that anything can happen?. We're leaving aren't we?. Have I missed something here? [img width=20 height=20 alt=:rolleyes]http://foc-u.co.uk/file:///C:/Users/garet/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/img]
Clearly you haven’t been paying attention.
It's the opposite. I've been paying too much attention :rolleyes
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