BREXIT

[agricola]

ok.
its an emotive issue on both sides, so lets try and take that out of it.
lets assume my reason for leaving isn't valid, along with whatever every other leavers reason was.
lets assume mt tread and vna are right to say because remain had a certainty to it that leave didn't, we should have abandoned what we really wanted to do, and voted to stay in a corrupt (just in our view obviously) system, ruled by people we didn't vote for, who gradually encroached upon every aspect of our lives with rules we had no say in.
And that instead of "dying on our feet rather than living on our knees" (again just our opinions obviously), we should have stayed on our knees.

Dear oh dear Ogri.
I think we have already in this thread established that the EU is actually a democratic union.
Rhetoric is all well and good.  But 40 odd pages in and we are still hearing off the EU “gradually encroached upon every aspect of our lives with rules we had no say in” yet so far when pressed the foc u BREXITEERS have come up with;
Daylight running lights
Graded bananas
Oh and lets not forget Dazza’a great grandfather.

Lets go so far as to assume that they are right about everything, and the 17.4 million who voted to leave are impudent, racist, etc etc all the other names that have been thrown at us.

Stephen Yaxley Lennon rightly got called out as a fascist and racist.  Indeed Nigel Farage tore up his UKIP membership card in disgust at his appointment.

Now, perhaps it was wrong for Cameron to allow the common people to decide their future. But he did it.

Yup in order to kill UKIP and win and election he gambled on our EU membership – membership that he himself believes is of great importance to our union.  What an ass.

So i'll only ask this and with the greatest of respect...Mt tread/VNA...are you not democrats? I mean if your not, obviously thats fine, each to their own, I was just sincerely wondering, thats all

Firstly, I don’t believe we should allow the Tory party to wreck this nation.
Secondly, I don’t believe people voted for unemployment and more food banks.
Thirdly – two countries in this union voted to REMAIN.  My country voted decisively to REMAIN, I fully expect the Scottish Parliament and our representatives at Westminster to fight to REMAIN in the EU.  If you believe in democracy you’ll understand and respect that.
Fourthly – BREXIT was not defined in the referendum.  Yes the race card was played, the central message of being 350 million a week better off was a blatant lie and illegal foreign money was used in the campaign.


So aye some off us are mighty pissed off at this English Tory mess.  Right now the UK is adrift at sea with nobody at the helm.

I begin to wonder why youre bothered? When we leave, according to you, Scotland will launch an other independence campaign resulting in Scotland re-joining the EU. If we remain, again, you're a happy man.

In response to your four points:
Firstly: I dont believe we should allow anyone to wreck this nation
Secondly: No-one did vote for unemployment or food banks. They weren't on the ballot paper, so we couldn't. We voted to LEAVE
Thirdly: You know full well that the ballot was a simple first past the post, based upon a majority of the populace of the UNITED KINGDOM deciding the result.
Fourthly: Neither was remain, but we knew what Remain meant. Leave meant Leave, and did not need defining

[ogri48]

Not me. Someone else created those. I just found them on Facebook and posted the images :lol

Wow. thats a logic and mindset its just about impossible to argue with, unless you genuinely believe it yourself. I don't, so I wont.

[dazza]

There's only one thing worse than  a sore loser(mtread) and that's a two time sore loser(VNA)


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_f...9908711665

[mtread]

But we're not losers, it ain't over yet


And you will be very very upset when you don't get your No Deal Brexit 

[mtread]

Wow. thats a logic and mindset its just about impossible to argue with,

Excellent 

[dazza]

But we're not losers, it ain't over yet


And you will be very very upset when you don't get your No Deal Brexit 

Who said I wanted a no deal ?

Nah, I won't be upset. I don't really give a fuck what happens now.
I just wanted out.
Whether that was with or without a deal, makes no difference to me really.


I'd just get my head down and get on with my life.
I just like posting things to balance up the struggle between good and evil.
Guess which side you're on .... :lol

[mtread]

I'm in the middle 

[dazza]

Well, all that name calling definitely puts you nearer the dark side.
BTW.... Islam is not a race, it's an ideology or religion or make believe reality or whatever you want to call it but it's not a race  so speaking  out against radical Islamists doesn't make you a racist or a fascist.
What ever race they are is irrevelant. The majority of the Muslim rape gangs are Pakistani but we are all part of the human race so as far as I can see "racism" only exists to those who want it to.
The term racist really hasn't got much of an effect nowadays due to being overused.

[mtread]

Well if you believe that you are way way over on the dark side  :eek

[YamFazFan]

It must time fae another funny :lol

From someone who's absolutely devoid of a sense of humour any other time :rolleyes


I nearly split my sides laughing at that 'funny' :z

[mtread]

Where are the Leave 'funnies'?  :rolleyes

[YamFazFan]

Whatever's happened to Speaker Bercow's voice?.


Listening to PMQ's today he makes Brian Blessed sound like Frank Spencer :rolleyes

[fazersharp]

Whatever's happened to Speaker Bercow's voice?.


Listening to PMQ's today he makes Brian Blessed sound like Frank Spencer :rolleyes

I have just been laughing too.
It starts off as audible but then degenerates each time 

Prime Minister
Prime Ministerrrrr
Ministerrrrrrrrrr
Rrrrrrrrrrr

[mtread]

He's always done that. He goes up then down. Mind you, he's had a lot to shout about lately.


Did you hear that Tory backbencher yesterday shout out at the SNP leader 'go back to Skye'? I'm outraged and I'm not even Scottish!

[fazersharp]

He's always done that. He goes up then down. Mind you, he's had a lot to shout about lately.


Did you hear that Tory backbencher yesterday shout out at the SNP leader 'go back to Skye'? I'm outraged and I'm not even Scottish!

Calm yourself man

[mtread]

Och aye

[YamFazFan]

He's always done that.

No he hasn't. I've been listening to it for years and it's only relatively recently that he's made it ridiculously, theatrically booming.

[YamFazFan]

Did you hear that Tory backbencher yesterday shout out at the SNP leader 'go back to Skye'? I'm outraged and I'm not even Scottish!

No I didn't hear that.
Did you hear what Corbyn said in the chamber today?.

[mtread]

Yes 'Stupid People' and he wasn't wrong 

[YamFazFan]

Yes 'Stupid People' and he wasn't wrong 

Ahh that's what it was