I am neither deluded or a supporter.
I don't judge a man by his past. It's what they do at the present which counts.
No one ever talks about the charity work or help for homeless veterans he's involved with.
Like I said, I don't agree with everything which includes any involvement with BNP or EDL (although I understand why it was formed) or football hooliganism but someone has got to look out for vulnerable underage children and the threat extremists pose to them,
Something he's been trying to do for many years.
This is the reason I won't jump on the bash Tommy bandwagon.
A lot of people have got skeletons in the cupboard but having such a high profile it's inevitable these are going to be brought up and used against you.
The fact remains is you would see this man locked up indefinitely, that's just an extreme and inhumane statement and would be a worse crime than anything he's ever done.
Think about that, you'd lock him up forever without just cause and throw away the key you said
That's just a stupid thing to say from a supposed liberal minded member of society.
God help anyone who's made mistakes in the past if everyone thought like you.
You say there is no division. That statement couldn't be further from the truth.
Remember, we are not talking about peaceful Muslims here.
These are radical extremists, the division couldn't be any further apart.
Quote: You say there is no division. That statement couldn't be further from the truth.Remember, we are not talking about peaceful Muslims here.These are radical extremists, the division couldn't be any further apart.
So you've changed it from 'he's innocent' to 'it's all behind him'. I'll put you down as deluded then.
There are radical right wing extremists. Those who killed Jo Cox and Makram Ali were inspired by Yaxley - Lennon and his supporters.
Actually, I'm not even going to debate this piece of shit with you.
(12-12-18, 10:36 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=mtread link=topic=24678.msg288823#msg288823 date=1544644850]
Um I wouldn't watch 'Celebrity' if you paid me,
Then indeed you have proved yourself to be part of the champagne socialist elite ------------ I would totally watch it it you paid me.
[/quote]But on the other hand I would pay to see Mogg get angry. That man dose not blink. If only Moggy was more faragey and knocked some heads together.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
12-12-18, 10:40 PM (This post was last modified: 12-12-18, 10:41 PM by VNA.)
Quote:I am neither deluded or a supporter.
I don't judge a man by his past. It's what they do at the present which counts.
No one ever talks about the charity work or help for homeless veterans he's involved with.
Like I said, I don't agree with everything which includes any involvement with BNP or EDL (although I understand why it was formed) or football hooliganism but someone has got to look out for vulnerable underage children and the threat extremists pose to them,
Something he's been trying to do for many years.
This is the reason I won't jump on the bash Tommy bandwagon.
A lot of people have got skeletons in the cupboard but having such a high profile it's inevitable these are going to be brought up and used against you.
The fact remains is you would see this man locked up indefinitely, that's just an extreme and inhumane statement and would be a worse crime than anything he's ever done.
Think about that, you'd lock him up forever without just cause and throw away the key you said
That's just a stupid thing to say from a supposed liberal minded member of society.
God help anyone who's made mistakes in the past if everyone thought like you.
You say there is no division. That statement couldn't be further from the truth.
Remember, we are not talking about peaceful Muslims here.
These are radical extremists, the division couldn't be any further apart.
Fuck him he's scum.
And fuck knows what the Oxford Union were thinking of.
As for Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, it’s interesting to note that your great man continues to be proudly known by his pseudonym Tommy Robinson, and in doing so he celebrates thuggery and violence.
Dazza, you might also want to consider that your Great Grandfather fought to free us from people like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon.
13-12-18, 07:03 AM (This post was last modified: 13-12-18, 07:13 AM by dazza.)
(12-12-18, 10:40 PM)VNA link Wrote: Fuck him he's scum.
And fuck knows what the Oxford Union were thinking of.
Well, apparently that's how some people make informed opinions by sitting quietly and listening to the other side of the story. Who'd have thought it.
Interesting to hear the hecklers outside calling him a fascist and racist and trying their best to silence him.
Guess they already had their opinions of him based on what they'd been told or read.
I'll leave this touchy subject alone now but will say this.
It's funny how yet again anyone with a different view point gets called names, I think deluded was the latest one.
We're all entitled to have our own opinions and view points and given the choice I would rather be one of the people sitting quietly inside listening than the other group outside shouting abuse.
Give everyone a chance I say and don't be too quick to judge.
I said before, nothing is ever black and white. There are many shades of grey in between.
And as for my Great Grandad and Grandad fighting against people like Tommy Robinson or Stephen Laxley Lennon or what ever his name is.
He was never the enemy.
The real enemy are the establishment and police involved in the cover up of prolific sex trafficking of vulnerable teenagers and children and those who have set out to destroy John Wedger.... Time will tell it's probably the same people that are responsible for wanting to silence TR.
If The EU are at all reasonable or sensible they'll try to accommodate Mrs May's requirements to give her deal a chance of getting through Parliament now.
I don't hold out much hope of that though :rolleyes
Quote: If The EU are at all reasonable or sensible they'll try to accommodate Mrs May's requirements to give her deal a chance of getting through Parliament now.
I don't hold out much hope of that though
I'm not sure what more they can do. According to the UK it's all about the 'backstop', which is just about putting off the exit. What the EU are saying is for the UK to ditch it unilaterally would cause a (later) 'no deal' /hard border exit, if that's what we want. It's totally up to the UK. Nothing for the EU to concede.
This is all about May trying to convince Parliament that there is something to be gained. The numbers still don't add up. When she goes back to Parliament after Xmas and fails to get her deal through, Labour will call for a no confidence vote. The DUP will have given up on her and she may well lose that. Article 50 postponed, General Election.