What made you feel good today?

[Robbie8666]

arranged a date for Friday night!! 1st time in 10 years!! 

Me too. Hope the wife doesn't find out  :eek

hope her husband don't find out either!!  :rollin :rollin

[tommyardin]

Here is a good indication of how good ACF50 is. These are the ends of my mini scaffold tower I cleaned them up well over 2 years ago and on one stem I smeared ACF50 and I left the others. Can you spot the one that had the ACF50  :lol They are stored in a dry area and so are not subject to rain washing off any ACF50 but the area does get damp.

Hey! Surely that is not a wall at 'Sharp Manor' not exactly period is it, iron rubbed in mortar joints is modern, it became popular in the sixties,.
I was expecting lime mortar with pencil joints, big stone arches with massive key stone bricks, tiled Kneelers at the bases of all the gables.
Sharpie have you been bullshitting us as to your heritage.  :rolleyes
Oh! The AFC50 has done a great job of protecting the tower.  :thumbup

[fazersharp]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23732.msg288487#msg288487 date=1544109038]
Here is a good indication of how good ACF50 is. These are the ends of my mini scaffold tower I cleaned them up well over 2 years ago and on one stem I smeared ACF50 and I left the others. Can you spot the one that had the ACF50  :lol They are stored in a dry area and so are not subject to rain washing off any ACF50 but the area does get damp.

Hey! Surely that is not a wall at 'Sharp Manor' not exactly period is it, iron rubbed in mortar joints is modern, it became popular in the sixties,.
I was expecting lime mortar with pencil joints, big stone arches with massive key stone bricks, tiled Kneelers at the bases of all the gables.
Sharpie have you been bullshitting us as to your heritage.  :rolleyes
Oh! The AFC50 has done a great job of protecting the tower.  :thumbup
[/quote]Its the storage mews - and they are metric bricks - you of all people should of spotted that one.

[mtread]

[color=rgb(102, 102, 102)]Quote[/color][/size]arranged a date for Friday night!! 1st time in 10 years!! [size=x-small]


Me too. Hope the wife doesn't find out 
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hope her husband don't find out either!! 

He might hit you with his white stick 

[tommyardin]

[color=rgb(102, 102, 102)]Quote[/color]arranged a date for Friday night!! 1st time in 10 years!!


Me too. Hope the wife doesn't find out 
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hope her husband don't find out either!! 

He might hit you with his white stick 

Foccer must be blind

[tommyardin]

[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=23732.msg288550#msg288550 date=1544177125]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23732.msg288487#msg288487 date=1544109038]
Here is a good indication of how good ACF50 is. These are the ends of my mini scaffold tower I cleaned them up well over 2 years ago and on one stem I smeared ACF50 and I left the others. Can you spot the one that had the ACF50  :lol They are stored in a dry area and so are not subject to rain washing off any ACF50 but the area does get damp.

Hey! Surely that is not a wall at 'Sharp Manor' not exactly period is it, iron rubbed in mortar joints is modern, it became popular in the sixties,.
I was expecting lime mortar with pencil joints, big stone arches with massive key stone bricks, tiled Kneelers at the bases of all the gables.
Sharpie have you been bullshitting us as to your heritage.  :rolleyes
Oh! The AFC50 has done a great job of protecting the tower.  :thumbup
[/quote]Its the storage mews - and they are metric bricks - you of all people should of spotted that one.
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L[size=1em]OL! [/size]
[size=1em]You are having a laugh Sharpie.[/size]
[size=1em]Imperial brickwork was gauged at 4 courses to the foot including bedding mortar.[/size]
[size=1em]Metric brickwork is gauged at 4 courses to 300mm including bedding mortar.[/size]
[size=1em]Converting 1 metric foot (12 inches) to imperial measure = 304.8mm, now that equates to 1.2 mm tighter gauge on the metric brickwork against imperial brickwork per course laid.[/size]

[size=1em]Imperial brick = 8 5/8 inches X 2 5/8 inches, with a 3/8 joint on the bottom (Bed Joint) and one on end (Perp Joint) you have a laid brick inc mortar of 9" X 3" [/size]
[size=1em]Metric brick    = 215mm X 65mm with a 10mm joint on the bottom (As above) and one on one end (Ditto) you have a laid brick inc mortar of 75mm X 225mm.[/size]

[size=1em]Now I worked on the building sites for a good number of years, aged 16 started bricklaying apprenticeship and aged 68 retired from building, and I still needed a tape measure to tell the difference between 304.8 mm and 300mm.[/size]

[size=1em]Fuck I wish I was aristocracy with all the gifts and skills they are blessed with [/size] :fish
I love you really Sharpie :eek

[fazersharp]

Lost me there.Is a metric brick smaller

[tommyardin]

Yeah Metric gauge is tighter than Imperial by 1.2mm per course of bricks, that is why building an extension on a imperial gauged house with metric bricks when they were the standard was a bastard as you either, lost gauge again the main house or you ended up with large bed joint to keep up. Seeing as you new brickwork bonded/tied into the original you ended up with large bed joints , of course on a complete new build it was not a problem.

[YamFazFan]

It's surprising how much the slightly deeper joints show up to the eye, particularly when that white cement is used to try to match in with lime mortar.
I'm guessing new imperial size bricks are more expensive?.

[fazersharp]

Yeah Metric gauge is tighter than Imperial by 1.2mm per course of bricks, that is why building an extension on a imperial gauged house with metric bricks when they were the standard was a bastard as you either, lost gauge again the main house or you ended up with large bed joint to keep up. Seeing as you new brickwork bonded/tied into the original you ended up with large bed joints , of course on a complete new build it was not a problem.

On an old building with new brick extension and if you are not bonding/tieing in which forces you to keep up. Which looks uglier - deeper beds to try and keep up or mismatched brick to brick.   

[mtread]

Zzzzzzzzzzz 

[fazersharp]

Zzzzzzzzzzz 

RUDE
If you are bored go and find some anti brexit propaganda cartoons to post on the brexit thread

[YamFazFan]

[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=23732.msg288575#msg288575 date=1544209370]
Yeah Metric gauge is tighter than Imperial by 1.2mm per course of bricks, that is why building an extension on a imperial gauged house with metric bricks when they were the standard was a bastard as you either, lost gauge again the main house or you ended up with large bed joint to keep up. Seeing as you new brickwork bonded/tied into the original you ended up with large bed joints , of course on a complete new build it was not a problem.

On an old building with new brick extension and if you are not bonding/tieing in which forces you to keep up. Which looks uglier - deeper beds to try and keep up or mismatched brick to brick. 
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Miss-matched brick to brick looks worse. More obvious to the eye than deeper mortar beds I think.


It must be a cost saving thing to use metric bricks in such a situation. Some of the old types are probably only available via reclamation and there's company's making certain patterns in imperial size, but it's bound to be dearer isn't it.

[tommyardin]

[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=23732.msg288575#msg288575 date=1544209370]
Yeah Metric gauge is tighter than Imperial by 1.2mm per course of bricks, that is why building an extension on a imperial gauged house with metric bricks when they were the standard was a bastard as you either, lost gauge again the main house or you ended up with large bed joint to keep up. Seeing as you new brickwork bonded/tied into the original you ended up with large bed joints , of course on a complete new build it was not a problem.

On an old building with new brick extension and if you are not bonding/tieing in which forces you to keep up. Which looks uglier - deeper beds to try and keep up or mismatched brick to brick. 
[/quote]


First pic below is of toothed out brickwork, it could be the main wall of a house you are building an extension on, so as you can see to tie the new brickwork into old you have no choice with metric bricks but to put a larger bed joint on each course to keep in step with the original
The other option which I think looks terrible is to use a stainless steel tie in system, one of the most popular is the crocodile system (see picture 2).
With the Crocodile system you either use bigger joint to keep with the original gauge or you lay the bricks to the metric gauge with normal sized joints, but you can see what happens in my roughed out 3 pic.  :'( [size=78%]  [/size]

[mtread]

RUDEIf you are bored go and find some anti brexit propaganda cartoons to post on the brexit thread

A joke, hence the wink.
Jeez you Leavers are so touchy at the moment....

[tommyardin]

[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=23732.msg288575#msg288575 date=1544209370]
Yeah Metric gauge is tighter than Imperial by 1.2mm per course of bricks, that is why building an extension on a imperial gauged house with metric bricks when they were the standard was a bastard as you either, lost gauge again the main house or you ended up with large bed joint to keep up. Seeing as you new brickwork bonded/tied into the original you ended up with large bed joints , of course on a complete new build it was not a problem.

On an old building with new brick extension and if you are not bonding/tieing in which forces you to keep up. Which looks uglier - deeper beds to try and keep up or mismatched brick to brick. 
[/quote]


The image I grabbed off the net showing the Crocodile Profile wall tie system is actually incorrect, you have to have a damp proof break between the external wall and any internal wall. As you can see in that picture the external of the original property has become an internal wall of the new extension and therefor should have a damp proof barrier between the two. What we used to do is cut a 10mm wide slot right through the wall the a large petrol diamond disc cutter and slot a damp proof membrane into the slot to form this damp proof break See revised pic.
I not sure that most councils would even accept this anymore as they are insisting on a thermal break as well, this method does not meet this criteria. it should now be a full width cavity to match the cavity size of the new extension.
Sorry if this is boring some but as an ex brickie I find it interesting.  :finger
 

[darrsi]

Why is there a picture of my wife on here???  :look

[agricola]

Building construction fascinates me. When me and the wife go to stately homes, old buildings, etc, I always end up looking at how they've been constructed. I spent hours looking at the framework of the Eden project when we went there. I spent 48 years as a mechanical crafstsman, and in the early 90s decided I want to replace the old concrete garage that came with the house and build my own with a proper pitched and tiled roof. Never done any construction work before, but hoped my engineering background would get me through. Got some books from the library on brickwork and roof construction and drew up my plans based on their simple design principles. All passed by the planners. Sloping site so stepped foundations. Took me  2 years, but I did it all by myself with a hired mixer. The planner came around to look at he walls before i could go ahead with the roof, and praised the quality of the brickwork he thought a "professional" had done. I said to him that I was a little disappointed because it was 2mm wider at the top on one corner, and he pissed himself laughing. "You wouldn't be a mechanical engineer would you?" he asked. "I bet you've laid every brick with a spirit level haven't you". Well, err, yes. Great fun though, really enjoyed it, wouldn't think twice about doing it again, and saved half the cost of having done professionally.

[fazersharp]

RUDEIf you are bored go and find some anti brexit propaganda cartoons to post on the brexit thread

A joke, hence the wink.
Jeez you Leavers are so touchy at the moment....

It was the wink that I took the wrong way - not your fault. It if would of been a  :lol it would of came across as more jokey 

[fazersharp]

Me to - love construction. About 30 years ago I did a night course on bricklaying, it was for big diyers like myself who wanted to learn some basics and since then have done loads and loads of brick projects, the first one was demolishing and rebuilding some out houses at the back of a terrace house to go from a loo/ coal shed/shed to one large shed.
Interesting about the DPM between the new and old, a few years ago we had an extension built and were made to have the front of it 1/2 brick back which then made it as you describe so that 1/2 original brick then becomes the internal wall further on and we did not have any cut and DPM as you describe. I would of worried that the front of the house would fall off if it was cut  :lol It was signed off with regs all along the way and I was there every time.
     
I chose size bricks that matched the original and they were toothed in. But because it was set back 1/2 brick maybe we could of got away with miss matching heights (don't know)
The nasty bricks in the picture are from the previous Lord of Sharp Halls extension effort which are now hidden by the new stable block  .