BREXIT

[fazersharp]

Daylight Running Lights. If the EU make them compulsory for new cars,  do you really think we wouldn't if we left the EU? Are motor manufacturers really going to the expense of  making special editions without them just for the UK?

No of course not  :rolleyes I was asked for a law I did not like and I gave one.

[fazersharp]

Yesterday ----- Macron backs down on fuel tax

Also worth pointing out Fuel Duties are nothing to do with the EU.

Never said they were anything to do with the EU - no wonder you didn't understand what the bus said.

[YamFazFan]

I bet all of the sailors mutinied when they found out that he'd drunk that barrel of rum dry . Mind you credit where it's due, he's done well to hold that plank steady considering  :lol

[mtread]

No of course not  I was asked for a law I did not like and I gave one.

There are lots of UK laws I'm not too keen on!

Never said they were anything to do with the EU - no wonder you didn't understand what the bus said.

But this is a Brexit thread, so you did a thread  :hijack    and I understood the bus lie perfectly  :lol

[fazersharp]

No of course not  I was asked for a law I did not like and I gave one.

There are lots of UK laws I'm not too keen on!

Agreed - BUT you can vote out the politicians who made them in this country.

[fazersharp]

Never said they were anything to do with the EU - no wonder you didn't understand what the bus said.

But this is a Brexit thread, so you did a thread  :hijack    and I understood the bus lie perfectly  :lol

I was going to make a point about laws - EU and in general that it seems only the UK that takes them and abides by them, Doesn't matter EU - or local, if the French don't like em -------they dot get em.The UK has to do what they are told whilst the French do what they like. The French farmers just the same - as is the fishermen.   

[YamFazFan]

[quote author=mtread link=topic=24678.msg288523#msg288523 date=But this is a Brexit thread, so you did a thread  :hijack 



'and other politics' it said in steve 10562cc's OP :deal

[YamFazFan]

Quotes brackets disease strikes again :'(

[fazersharp]

What is the aim of all of these Goebbels-esk propaganda cartoons is it just to name call, wind up, insult every leave voter. Surely the remainers efforts would be better spent trying to gather support for their cause and even try to reverse leave voters opinions rather than mocking the leavers, all you are doing is entrenching the leavers views. 

[fazersharp]

Here is my prediction.May's deal will be voted down.
Borris will mount a leadership challenge.
Nigel Farage will become a Lord/knight and enter the government.Borris wins the PM after saying he will call for an election.Labour will agree to one being called
Conservative party will win with the help of Lord Farage.No deal Brexit.We negotiate into the parts of the EU we want from a position of strength.

[tommyardin]

[size=1em]Oh My!
This is the first time i have visited this thread for a while now, and, I see it has gone down hill quite rapidly, not that it was very upmarket from in inception. as it was a post for VNA  :eek :eek :eek :lol :lol :lol .

We can pontificate as much as we like, having this opinion and that opinion, but alas it will be done unto you, whether you like it or not.

Do you honestly think that you as a British person (No matter what colour skin you have, even if your from North of the Border and your pale blue) have any more rights or are listened to in this country, than say nationals, Filipinos or Nepalese do in Dubai?
We will be shafted by those in power whether its Theresa, Jeremy or any of the other selfish grabbing bastards that are at the helm. After all we all expected to contribute to Sir Peter Viggers the cost of a £1,645 floating duck-house
Or just to sight another of our ministers that are looking after our and the country's interests, Kitty Ussher this woman resigned as a Treasury minister after avoiding a £17,000 tax bill on the sale of her home.
T
here are different rules for different folk.
Fuck you Jack I'm all right!  :eek

How is that for a hijack? or is that a fuck you hijack?  :'( [/size]

[VNA]

Borris will mount a leadership challenge.

Boris tae the rescue :eek

[VNA]

[size=1em]not that it was very upmarket from in inception. as it was a post for VNA  [img alt=:eek]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/shocked.gif[/img] [img alt=:eek]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/shocked.gif[/img] [img alt=:eek]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/shocked.gif[/img] [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img] [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img] [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img] .[/size]

[size=1em]Cheeky bastard :foc [/size]

[YamFazFan]

What is the aim of all of these Goebbels-esk propaganda cartoons is it just to name call, wind up, insult every leave voter. Surely the remainers efforts would be better spent trying to gather support for their cause and even try to reverse leave voters opinions rather than mocking the leavers, all you are doing is entrenching the leavers views.

You'd be forgiven for thinking that 'Leave' had lost the referendum wouldn't you?.
'Remain' are now the ones acting victorious and Leave defensive. Obviously that's not how it should be but Remain are full of confidence, even in defeat, because they know that they have the force of the establishment on their side attempting to make every effort to reverse the referendum result. Who can blame Remain for being optimistic?. Not me. I'd be very surprised if we come out. Over 17 million votes and 52% to 48% probably isn't going to sway it ufortunately :\ .
If it had been 52% to Remain it would have been declared a clear victory, end of debate no doubt.

[mtread]

What is the aim of all of these Goebbels-esk propaganda cartoons is it just to name call, wind up, insult every leave voter. Surely the remainers efforts would be better spent trying to gather support for their cause and even try to reverse leave voters opinions rather than mocking the leavers, all you are doing is entrenching the leavers views.

OK

[mtread]

Agreed - BUT you can vote out the politicians who made them in this country.

But no you can't. You can vote for one MP, one (or perhaps two) local councillors. If your candidate is elected and in opposition, you don't get what you want.
What's the difference with the EU? You vote for your candidate as an MEP. If they win, they have a vote in the European Parliament. If you don't like what your MEP is doing, you can vote them out. If your MEP joins with others to resist an EU proposal, then it won't happen.
Does anybody here actually bother to vote in the European Parliament elections?

[mtread]

Who can blame Remain for being optimistic?. Not me. I'd be very surprised if we come out.

I think you're right, but not without another referendum. If the result is something like 60:40 or above  Remain they will use that to overturn the 48:52.
My betting though is a delay on the March deadline followed by a renegotiated deal keeping all of the UK in the Customs Union and the Single Market. What NI is getting, but for all of the UK. A sort of Norway deal and not far removed from Theresa's current offerring, and closer to Labour's 6 tests. Shuts up the DUP too. UK then can say it has formally left the EU, but still takes most of the rules. Does mean though that in future UK can withdraw any time it likes. Theresa's escape plan.

[YamFazFan]

What's the difference with the EU?

You can't vote either in or out the unelected members of The European Commission who propose the legislation that the MEP's vote on.

[mtread]

You can't vote either in or out the unelected members of The European Commission who propose the legislation that the MEP's vote on.

You can't vote for the Civil Servants who propose, write and implement the UK legislation that UK members of Parliament vote on. Who do you think prepared the Withdrawal Bill? MPs just sign stuff off.

[YamFazFan]

MPs just sign stuff off.

Nonsense.