Other reasons why NO DEAL is not an option are;
Aside from it destroying our economy.
Trashing our currency.
Downgrading our credit rating.
Well the UK will be seen as untrustworthy. We will have been seen to walk away from our commitments.
It sends a signal to the world the UK cannot be trusted. That the UK is a country that reneges on commitment and contract.
What is likely to happen next if Parliament rejects the Brexit deal but The Government wins a subsequent confidence vote?.
(20-11-18, 08:54 PM)mtread link Wrote: Quote: If that's the way the EU wants it, then fine.
The word 'Deal' suggests agreement between two or more parties.
I'll be sending out dictionaries for Xmas 
You see, that's where your argument fails. No deal means that we aren't bound by EU rules anymore. Therefore, if we want to to say EU citizens living and working here can stay, we can. But we can also say that to only the ones who benefit us by being here. Or to whoever we decide we want to. That's the point of no deal that seems to be going straight over your head. We will have the sovereignty over our own land to do as we see fit, for our benefit. Then, if the EU still wants to chuck UK citizens out, we'll see (more of) their true colours.
The EU says it has things to lose by us leaving. After a no deal exit, it will then be up to them to demonstrate if they mean that, or they want nothing more to do with us. You Remainers only see the extremes of everything. Perhaps that is why the EU suits you so much. If the EU then wants to negotiate common ground in various things sensibly, i.e. they give up this idea that they can just dictate to us, then we'll see a new relationship develop.
(20-11-18, 09:54 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: What is likely to happen next if Parliament rejects the Brexit deal but The Government wins a subsequent confidence vote?.
Then it's likely that on March 29th we will leave with no deal, as the EU will refuse any further negotiations.
Quote:What is likely to happen next if Parliament rejects the Brexit deal but The Government wins a subsequent confidence vote?.
Your question is irrelevant because I cannot see how, as things stand right now, how the government could loose a vote of no -confidence. Therefore there will not be a vote of no-confidence.
(20-11-18, 10:20 PM)Hedgetrimmer link Wrote: [quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=24678.msg287520#msg287520 date=1542747241]
What is likely to happen next if Parliament rejects the Brexit deal but The Government wins a subsequent confidence vote?.
Then it's likely that on March 29th we will leave with no deal, as the EU will refuse any further negotiations.
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Right no deal it is then. That's that one sorted. I'm positive we'll be fine. We had all this doomsday scenario stuff just before The Millenium didn't we and nothing happened. The EU will miss us more than we miss them  . Well they'll miss our cash anyway :lol .
(20-11-18, 10:40 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: The EU will miss us more than we miss them . Well they'll miss our cash anyway :lol .
That, at the end of the day, is all they're interested in us for. Or more specifically, the financial powerhouse called London.
But as I’ve pointed out there will not be a vote of no confidence.
It is likely that May’s deal will be voted down.
Not sure what happens then.
But I think cross party emergency talks will be held, along with emergency talks with the EU.
There might be very minor adjustments to May’s deal.
If parliament fail to pass the deal again, there will be a referendum.
A No Deal option will be ruled out by parliamentary vote.
So, if, and I say if, there is s second referendum (if emergency cross party talks fail) then the question will be;
May’s deal
Or
Tear up article 50.
This second referendum will be binding.
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One for you VNA.
I know you're going to hate it because he refers to "Englishmen" :lol
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quote] What is likely to happen next if Parliament rejects the Brexit deal but The Government wins a subsequent confidence vote?.
Then it's likely that on March 29th we will leave with no deal, as the EU will refuse any further negotiations.
That is one option. The other is to postpone the March 29 Article 50 deadline while other options are looked at. The EU have said they might be willing to do that.
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Glad you like that one That's the 700, 000 who marched in London. The 2nd biggest march since the Iraq war one.
Not sure how many were at Nigel's 'Leave Means Leave' do in, where was it, oh yes Harrogate. Perhaps you could remind us :lol [/size]
Quote: We had all this doomsday scenario stuff just before The Millenium didn't we and nothing happened. [/size] .
Now from all I've read on here that is the biggest piece of bollocks I've heard. As someone who led major projects during 5 years of preparation for the year 2000, I can tell you it was planning and effort by many thousands of people that avoided a domesday scenario.
(21-11-18, 12:50 AM)mtread link Wrote: Quote: We had all this doomsday scenario stuff just before The Millenium didn't we and nothing happened. .
Now from all I've read on here that is the biggest piece of bollocks I've heard.
I don't know whether to take that as an insult or a compliment :lol :lol :lol
(20-11-18, 07:19 PM)VNA link Wrote: What I don’t see sense in is our wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. What I don’t see sense in is funding Islamic fundamentalists around the world just as wee have done in Syria. What I don’t see sense in is selling arms to sick Wahhabist nutters in Saudia Arbaia who not only use them to kill civilans in Yemen but happen to think nothing of murdering guests to their foreign consulates. I don't think many will disagree with you there. But all of that happened when we were IN the EU. So by wanting to stay in the EU you are voting for more of the same.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
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(21-11-18, 12:50 AM)mtread link Wrote: As someone who led major projects during 5 years of preparation for the year 2000
I couldn't interest you in coming out of retirement to lead another major one for the year 2019 could I?.
You've only got about 4 months this time though :lol .
'Your Country Needs You!' as someone once famously said. 
....it could be your finest h-h-h-half hour :lol
Sorry for the delay lads. I've been at the NEC bike show all day. Wanted to see the likes of Ducati, Moto Guzzi, BMW and KTM etc before they're banned from entering /can't be bothered to turn up. The good news is that their spaces are going to be taken up by Royal Enfield in our desire to go back to the 1950s and 60s :lol
Quote: I couldn't interest you in coming out of retirement to lead another major one for the year 2019 could I?.You've only got about 4 months this time though .
Yep OK I'll do it. My fee will be £350 million a week you were going to give to the NHS (apparently). Converted to Euros of course. I don't want to be out of pocket.
Of course like most IT projects it will slip. I can't say how long, but certainly long enough to have another referendum
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