Show me your winter underwear

[fazersharp]

I have taken this from the "what did you do with your Fazer thread so not to derail it.
I don't do rain but I do - do cold and been getting away with lots of thin layers, this lot


The blue is a thin camping mat -crap for camping that fits the chest and wraps all the way around to my back and is both insulating and windproof.
The kidney belt as well as being extra lower back protection is also very good at keeping your core warm.

It has been pointed out to me that I should invest in a vest

Honestly Fazersharp, mate. Learn to spend a bit of money where your favourite things are concerned (e.g. riding your bike). Get yourself one of those Pertex wind shirts, like the cyclists use. Thin as a fag paper, weighs nothing, packs down tiny in a little stuff sack. Put it on under or over a pullover, makes one hell of a difference without bulking you out. If you need to be warmer still, try a down or primaloft jacket under your bike jacket - some have a Pertex outer layer, so they are very windproof, and come in different weights, so you still don't need to bulk up too much. Wind chill is half the battle.
This is the top I use:
https://www.jackson-sports.com/en/gb/Mon...pgQAvD_BwE
Yeah, I know, pricey  :eek  but I got mine for £25 in a sale, so look out for such.
And if I need to be even warmer, I use one of these:
https://www.climbers-shop.com/10900842/p...acket.aspx

I don't want heated stuff just as thin a possible with wind stop to replace the 3 layers and the camping mat, good suggestions so far from the trimmer but looking for something that combines both. Like this https://www.evanscycles.com/endura-pro-s...t-EV305964 but I really dont want to pay that much -otherwise I will carry on with my stupid layers as they do work.

[darrsi]

I don't think i've ever worn that much clothing at the same time in all of my lifetime.
Maybe if i was doing a North Pole expedition.


Normally a short sleeved shirt under my jacket, or if it goes below freezing like today i'll add a vest  :lol


You seriously need to invest in heated grips, they'll make a massive difference to you out in the cold, compared to not having them at all.

[darrsi]

My tank cover made my legs feel a lot warmer too, not having to grip bare metal.

[fazersharp]

I don't think i've ever worn that much clothing at the same time in all of my lifetime.
Maybe if i was doing a North Pole expedition.


Normally a short sleeved shirt under my jacket,vor if it goes below freezing like today i'll add a vest  :lol


You seriously need to invest in heated grips, they'll make a massive difference to you out in the cold, compared to not having them at all.

Think we have been there with heated grips before and they are not for me.As for so many layers, If I am pootling into town in heavy traffic then I wear less and don't get cold but I dont commute or go out in crap traffic usually so my rides are all wind chillers. My legs and feet actually never get cold.

[fazersharp]

Anyone know anything about Bontrager B2 Windshell Long Sleeve Base Layer looks to be around £40-£60 but found somewhere I get it for £20

[tommyardin]

Anyone know anything about Bontrager B2 Windshell Long Sleeve Base Layer looks to be around £40-£60 but found somewhere I get it for £20

Sharpie you are a tight fucker :eek

[fazersharp]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23815.msg276088#msg276088 date=1519737623]
Anyone know anything about Bontrager B2 Windshell Long Sleeve Base Layer looks to be around £40-£60 but found somewhere I get it for £20

Sharpie you are a tight fucker :eek
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I ride a 20 year old bike --------what do you think- yes tight

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=23815.msg276081#msg276081 date=1519733662]
I don't think i've ever worn that much clothing at the same time in all of my lifetime.
Maybe if i was doing a North Pole expedition.


Normally a short sleeved shirt under my jacket,vor if it goes below freezing like today i'll add a vest  :lol


You seriously need to invest in heated grips, they'll make a massive difference to you out in the cold, compared to not having them at all.

Think we have been there with heated grips before and they are not for me.As for so many layers, If I am pootling into town in heavy traffic then I wear less and don't get cold but I dont commute or go out in crap traffic usually so my rides are all wind chillers. My legs and feet actually never get cold.
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Saying heated grips "are not for me" is just plain daft, they're for everyone who rides in cold weather, whether it's a short or long journey.
It's like going outside in the snowy weather without a jacket on. Neither are compulsory to have, but i promise you they'll both make you feel a damn site more comfortable.

[fazersharp]

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Ok out today dry but cold and had a purposeful look and feel at the way I grip and its mainly with my palm and thumb and from my knuckles to my fingertips I don't really touch the grips. Baring in mind my shit circulation in that area and my actual hands don't get cold I still don't see how heated grips will help me. I don't even use my hands much what with clutch-less changing and 2 finger braking with braided lines, I have tried wiggling my fingers around to see if that helps.
Perhaps I will just stick to short 1/2 - 1 hour blasts in the winter, after all I don't have to ride when its cold as I don't commute - but then again if I was communing I don't think my hands would get so cold as they would get used more with stop and starts and less wind blast.

So you have different hands to everyone else?
You don't touch the grips when riding? That's clever!  :lol


Heat travels, if your palms are being blasted with heat then the attached fingers will obviously get some warmth as well.
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No like I said my fingers from knuckles to the tips do not really touch the grips its thumb, palms and half my fingers, and warming my palms up wont help my finger cause I have got crap circulation. 
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Without going over it all again the above is a reminder

[Simon.Pieman]

I ride all year round and currently use the EDZ layering system, base layer, mid and fleece top layer then the all important pertex  top and trousers. Despite the number of layers you don't feel like the Michelin man wearing these so they don't restrict movement.
Someone said you have to have heated grips. Bullshit.Gloves have come a long way in recent years and can be warm all day if you buy decent ones (£120+). If you ride every day like I do mostly, it doesn't take long for heated grips to break down anyhow.
A kidney belt, which can just be simply a wooly scarf wrapped around your midriff is a sound idea.

[darrsi]

I ride all year round and currently use the EDZ layering system, base layer, mid and fleece top layer then the all important pertex  top and trousers. Despite the number of layers you don't feel like the Michelin man wearing these so they don't restrict movement.
Someone said you have to have heated grips. Bullshit.Gloves have come a long way in recent years and can be warm all day if you buy decent ones (£120+). If you ride every day like I do mostly, it doesn't take long for heated grips to break down anyhow.
A kidney belt, which can just be simply a wooly scarf wrapped around your midriff is a sound idea.

Never had a set of heated grips fail on me, so maybe it's just you talking your usual bullshit?

[fazersharp]

These are my gloves http://www.visordown.com/features/produc...ter-gloves

[fazersharp]

I have edited the title to make it clearer what I am looking for

[dazza]

:eek :lol

[steve 10562cc]

that's a familiar pattern after a winter ride in snow and ice

[Simon.Pieman]

[quote author=Simon.Pieman link=topic=23815.msg276139#msg276139 date=1519829207]
I ride all year round and currently use the EDZ layering system, base layer, mid and fleece top layer then the all important pertex  top and trousers. Despite the number of layers you don't feel like the Michelin man wearing these so they don't restrict movement.
Someone said you have to have heated grips. Bullshit.Gloves have come a long way in recent years and can be warm all day if you buy decent ones (£120+). If you ride every day like I do mostly, it doesn't take long for heated grips to break down anyhow.
A kidney belt, which can just be simply a wooly scarf wrapped around your midriff is a sound idea.

Never had a set of heated grips fail on me, so maybe it's just you talking your usual bullshit?
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As I've said in the past, I really don't care what the hell you think as you are often abusive. 'Been on this forum for around 10 years now and noticed most of the old guard left after you started posting regularly. Obviously some others did object to your rants and abuse. Grow up.

[RikkiWilliams]

I got a pair of thermals from primary £10 each for top and trousers. Then just put my normal clothes and gear over the top. Have you tried the handlebar covers the work well for keeping your fingers warm. 

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=23815.msg276144#msg276144 date=1519852070]
[quote author=Simon.Pieman link=topic=23815.msg276139#msg276139 date=1519829207]
I ride all year round and currently use the EDZ layering system, base layer, mid and fleece top layer then the all important pertex  top and trousers. Despite the number of layers you don't feel like the Michelin man wearing these so they don't restrict movement.
Someone said you have to have heated grips. Bullshit.Gloves have come a long way in recent years and can be warm all day if you buy decent ones (£120+). If you ride every day like I do mostly, it doesn't take long for heated grips to break down anyhow.
A kidney belt, which can just be simply a wooly scarf wrapped around your midriff is a sound idea.

Never had a set of heated grips fail on me, so maybe it's just you talking your usual bullshit?
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As I've said in the past, I really don't care what the hell you think as you are often abusive. 'Been on this forum for around 10 years now and noticed most of the old guard left after you started posting regularly. Obviously some others did object to your rants and abuse. Grow up.
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Think you'll find that i respond to abusive people, ie: you.
Rarely have you simply made a general comment or given any good advice without chucking some sort of put down within your post, and i admit things like that do tend to piss me off and i bite.
There is absolutely nothing whatsoever that is "obvious" in what you're implying either, you are again just spouting more crap to please your own little mind.
And it's not just me that you've crossed before either, so my conscience is clear, you seem to dive in, take a snipe at someone, then disappear again for months OBVIOUSLY when you realize that you're behaving like a knob and people are noticing AGAIN.
As a pointer, try and write a post giving an opinion, which will be read and accepted, rather than accusing someone of talking "bullshit" mid sentence, as comments like that do unsurprisingly tend to rub people up the wrong way!
See you in a few months. 

[fazersharp]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=23815.msg276144#msg276144 date=1519852070]
[quote author=Simon.Pieman link=topic=23815.msg276139#msg276139 date=1519829207]
I ride all year round and currently use the EDZ layering system, base layer, mid and fleece top layer then the all important pertex  top and trousers. Despite the number of layers you don't feel like the Michelin man wearing these so they don't restrict movement.
Someone said you have to have heated grips. Bullshit.Gloves have come a long way in recent years and can be warm all day if you buy decent ones (£120+). If you ride every day like I do mostly, it doesn't take long for heated grips to break down anyhow.
A kidney belt, which can just be simply a wooly scarf wrapped around your midriff is a sound idea.

Never had a set of heated grips fail on me, so maybe it's just you talking your usual bullshit?
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As I've said in the past, I really don't care what the hell you think as you are often abusive. 'Been on this forum for around 10 years now and noticed most of the old guard left after you started posting regularly. Obviously some others did object to your rants and abuse. Grow up.
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RIGHT you two  :bobby . Keep your handbags to yourself on my thread.

[fazersharp]

I got a pair of thermals from primary £10 each for top and trousers. Then just put my normal clothes and gear over the top. Have you tried the handlebar covers the work well for keeping your fingers warm. 

The thing I worry about is when the word "Thermal" is used in clothes but I have no idea what is rated a proper thermal over a normal fluffy t shirt, what give manufactures the right to call something thermal its not like CE armer that has to pass tests --- is it ?
I just can not bring myself to attach muffs im afraid.