(07-01-18, 09:50 AM)red98 link Wrote: [size=1em]
Great thing the web , lots of crap on it but some really helpful tips , advice and knowledge , you just got to sort the good from the bad....
sounds like youve found a fazer owner whos also an expert on C90s :thumbup
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[size=1em]Cheers Red, The helpful hit was not from a Fazer owner as far as I know, just a random internet search hit, he obviously knows a lot about C90's and is happy to share his knowledge. As you said lots of good stuff out there but needs to be sieved out from the abundance of shite that there is as well. [/size]
[size=1em]Pleased so far with what I have seen of the C90, some rust at the back end but certainly not rotten, no welding needed as far as I can see, mostly surface rust. [/size]
[size=1em]Stripped the wiring harness out, the wireing is so simple, lights only work with the engine running, the model that I have is the first of the electronic ignition models so no contact breakers as in the earlier C90's.[/size]
[size=1em]One busted indicator but other than that all electrics are good and working as they should. [/size]
[size=1em]I have a nice set of led indicators that I will fit them as the original rear ones stick out so far it I could see it could make filtering a bit hit and miss, being hopeful more miss than hit. [/size]
Well some time had passed since I posted in here.
Quick update on the 1989 Honda C90-G.
Completely stripped the Cub down and was pleasantly surprised at how little rust was on the old thing, the bits that had surface rust I sand blasted in a mates sandblasting cabinet and removed all trace then spent hours with wet and dry rubbing the thing down.the insides of all the box sections have be painted with Red Oxide, the body work including all the plastics have been primed/undercoated and given four coats of china blue enamel just a couple of bit left to spray, I have run out of china blue paint so order another can.
Huge clean up in the shed everything was covered with blue over-spray dust.
Popped the cover off the side of the engine to reveal knackered clutch plates, I had anticipated that one and had a full gasket set and new plates sat on the bench, new clutch in this afternoon and had to spend about an hour and a bit cleaning the old gasket off the two halves of the case, not sure what those Japanese fitters use but it was a bastid to remove.
Anyway new clutch now fitted.
New tyres and tubes and rim tapes arrive 3 days ago so will fit them tomorrow (And mend a puncture in my push bike at the same time)
Finish off a bit more spray painting when the paint arrives then leave it for a couple of weeks for the paint to really cure before starting reassembling the old thing, actually I might leave it until the end of the first week in march before reassembling as I going be out of the country for a while.
Nothing particularly exciting just visiting relatives and going with the wife to a book festival in Dubai.
looks like you will have a proper minter when your done
good on ya for saving it
not to mention the financial benefits of saving it , better looking than a pension fund aswell
05-02-18, 12:17 AM (This post was last modified: 05-02-18, 12:24 AM by tommyardin.)
Spent a few hours cleaning the old lacquer off the alternator/front sprocket engine case, wet and dry up through the grades to finish with 1200 grit before braking out the Solvo metal polish, pleased with the way its polished up as the case had about 25% of the lacquer flaked off and case was white and furry/pitted.
I painted the clutch cover engine case with silver heat proof paint, but have decided to pop the cover back off the engine and do the same polishing job to that side as well.
(05-02-18, 12:17 AM)tommyardin link Wrote: Spent a few hours cleaning the old lacquer off the alternator/front sprocket engine case, wet and dry up through the grades to finish with 1200 grit before braking out the Solvo metal polish, pleased with the way its polished up as the case had about 25% of the lacquer flaked off and case was white and furry/pitted.
I painted the clutch cover engine case with silver heat proof paint, but have decided to pop the cover back off the engine and do the same polishing job to that side as well.
Get yourself a bench grinder and some polishing mops and grades of polishing soap and save your elbow grease - not to mention get a fantastic finnish
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(05-02-18, 02:00 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=tommyardin link=topic=23575.msg275095#msg275095 date=1517786268]
Spent a few hours cleaning the old lacquer off the alternator/front sprocket engine case, wet and dry up through the grades to finish with 1200 grit before braking out the Solvo metal polish, pleased with the way its polished up as the case had about 25% of the lacquer flaked off and case was white and furry/pitted.
I painted the clutch cover engine case with silver heat proof paint, but have decided to pop the cover back off the engine and do the same polishing job to that side as well.
Get yourself a bench grinder and some polishing mops and grades of polishing soap and save your elbow grease - not to mention get a fantastic finnish
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I'm off up to see a old mate today to use his sand blast cabinet to remove the paint from the clutch cover he also has a bench grinder with mop wheels so might give that a go at the same time, as you say save some hard work.
Have to admit though I was pleasantly surprised how well the case came up with Wet & Dry and warm soapy water, I started off with 400, 600,1000 and 1200 grit but it obviously left swirl marks but about 45 minutes with Solvo got rid of them.
I tend to be a person who regularly cleans and polishes my bikes so the engine cases will only get better with a bit of Solvo each time I clean the C90.
The black plastic back lamp unit was all pale grey with fade so did the same to that and that has come up well to, only problem is that it is so charged with static that it is a dust magnet now :lol
Well I rang my mate up to ask him if I could use his bench grinder and polishing mops and the selfish foccer has only gone on holiday with his Mrs to Jamaica, thoughtless bugger.
So had to resort to the traditional method, Out with the different grades of Wet and Dry and soapy water, Brasso followed up with Autosol, 7 hours later this is the result on the clutch cover.
24-02-18, 12:34 AM (This post was last modified: 24-02-18, 12:58 AM by tommyardin.)
[size=1em]Just a quick update on my winter project, this are going well in the Shent or it it a Ted. (Workshop)[/size]
[size=1em]My shed is so jammed full of stuff I had to resort to putting up a large frame tent in the back garden, I am using that as a workshop for the renovation, it works surprising well as a workshop I have put down a 3/4" Plywood floor in there and constructed a bench, lots of power points, lights, WiFi extender from the house and a bloody great electric fan heater, all the comforts of home without the interruptions of normal life.[/size]
[size=1em]Anyway Honda C90 is almost back together, Had one issue with the electrics when I switched an indicator on all four came on, it was the same when I switched left or right, the problem was in the indicator warning light, I messed about for about 6 hours trying to sort that one.[/size]
[size=1em]The old adage came into play that the problem is often staring you in the face, but fail to see it, the indicator warning light is the one thing that is common to both left and right indication and there it was in the speedometer dial staring me in the face. [/size] :'( anyway it is sorted now
[size=1em]With a bit of luck should be ready to kick the old girl over tomorrow evening and hopefully she will burst into life, rather than in flames.[/size] :thumbdown [size=1em]Fuel tank to go on with new fuel line, carb to go on (All nice and clean), exhaust, and chain and chain guard to fit, horn, and legshields. found a great big crack in the legshields when I cleaned them up I knew there was a lump broken out of them but this large crack has focced them, so for now I have cut them down, I will see how it goes and if I don't like it I can purchase a new one, but sadly my budget on the bike had been exceeded already.[/size] [size=1em]£400 was my budget, spent £460 not including the £200 I paid for the bike, I know if I eBay-ed the bike I would easily get my money back as they are going for mega money.[/size] [size=1em]Its been a great 6 week project stripping the old girl down to the last nut and bolt, sand blasting all the metal work, and respraying, including respraying all the plastic panels and fork shields.[/size]
[size=1em]Bit of advice for anyone completely stripping a bike down is take shed loads of photos of everything before you remove it, especially all the wiring, mark cables that go together with a permanent maker pen (Don't like to say a Sharpie, cos he gets punchy [/size] :lol I used a series of lines, crosses, stars anything that you can match up. Anyway this is the old girl as of tonight. Oh! got the log book all sorted out and it's registered in my name and on a a Sorn Statement for now.
Everytime i see an update on this project i get a little excited to see whats happend
she is looking good give yourself a pat on the back.
i enjoy seeing an old bird come to life (but not at the strip club, that once was enough)
(24-02-18, 12:34 AM)tommyardin link Wrote: [size=1em]Bit of advice for anyone completely stripping a bike down is take shed loads of photos of everything before you remove it, especially all the wiring, mark cables that go together with a permanent maker pen (Don't like to say a Sharpie, cos he gets punchy [/size] :lol I used a series of lines, crosses, stars anything that you can match up.
X and lines a good idea as I was doing some stuff and thought I would be cleaver R=red / B-Blue / B- brown --- wait a min STUPID I might get caught out with B for brown and B for blue so I added the next letter only to realise that when I came to connect back up I had 2 that said BL - cleaver arse Bl for blue and a BL for black :wall
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(24-02-18, 09:34 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=tommyardin link=topic=23575.msg275913#msg275913 date=1519428849] [size=1em]Bit of advice for anyone completely stripping a bike down is take shed loads of photos of everything before you remove it, especially all the wiring, mark cables that go together with a permanent maker pen (Don't like to say a Sharpie, cos he gets punchy [/size] :lol I used a series of lines, crosses, stars anything that you can match up.
X and lines a good idea as I was doing some stuff and thought I would be cleaver R=red / B-Blue / B- brown --- wait a min STUPID I might get caught out with B for brown and B for blue so I added the next letter only to realise that when I came to connect back up I had 2 that said BL - cleaver arse Bl for blue and a BL for black :wall
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Also if you have 3 or 4 pairs blues in a headlamp shell or under the seat you knackered using B & G & R.
Using symbols no mater what the colour of the wire you cant get it wrong, XXX or XX or X, or *** or ** or *, or 111 or 11. mark them before unplugging, you get the picture.
Mrs Bought me a New Skid Lid for the C90 today, open faced Duchini
your mrs bought you a helmet to match a c90, one question- Does she have a single sister ????
best reaction i have ever got has been - YOU BOUGHT ANOTHER PROJECT!!!!!!!
at that point i chose to be single as bikes dont complain when i ride them too hard
TED is finished. Did the last of the work to him today, decided to try for an MOT this afternoon, rang A-Force Motorcycles at about 1-00 am hoping to get it done either today or tomorrow, Their response if you want it done today we will make a space, I arrived at 3-05 by 3-10 it was in the workshop, Darren one of the owners of A-Force Motorcycles lent me some spanner to I could adjust the angle of the heel and toe gear change, he then did a thorough job of going over the bike for me gave me a couple of off record advisories then MOT'ed TED for me, yes he passed with flying colours. Darren's comment was its the smartest C 90 he has seen in many a year. :thumbup
If you are in the Hampshire area and want work done I would highly recommend these guys to you 'A-Force Motorcycles of Aldershot' run by two brothers Alex and Darren. They do the stuff on my Fazer FZS 600 that I can not do, or, do not want to do. Skilled guys and not greedy money wise that want you to be happy and become a loyal customer IE: they want you back.
Honda insured now and MOT tested, off to the P/Office tomorrow to tax it, £18-00 a year, can't be bad. Can not tax it online as TED has a SORN statement on him so has to be done in person at P/Office.
It has been an interesting project and also an enjoyable one, the whole project (including purchase price of the bike £200) has come out at £730 including the MOT. I will put a new exhaust system on it, there was some rust under the silencer so I painted it with Matt Black Heat proof paint but it has burnt off where the baffle plate restricts the gas flow, New exhaust system front to back One piece unit.
Miriam my Daughter named the C 90 'TED' cos I used a very big Frame Tent as a workshop to do the renovation in she said it was a cross between a Tent and a Shed = TED.
