Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!

[VNA]

If he comes and makes a fool of himself that's all power to their cause isn't it.

Just waiting for the details now.  I wanna be there to give him a big welcome.  I am sure Mr Trump will not forget his visit to the UK in a hurry.

[YamFazFan]

But what we need now is a second referendum on the EU.

..............and if we lose that one also, then a third  :lol

[Billy Balthorpe]

And keep going until we decide to stay in, then give Scotland referendums on independence until they vote to leave, then ban referendums forever.

Come on, the referendum was held, we voted to leave, politicians SHOULD be running this country according to the will of the people, and they are still arguing. Theres no argument for ANY political party, they should all be working together to find the best deal for us. The people who they should be SERVING.

Self serving - I'm all right Jack - Cheating - lying - Bastards the lot of them.

[YamFazFan]

If he comes and makes a fool of himself that's all power to their cause isn't it.

Just waiting for the details now.  I wanna be there to give him a big welcome.  I am sure Mr Trump will not forget his visit to the UK in a hurry.

Just checking......you're not planning on wearing an Uncle Sam costume as well are you?.

I'm worried we're going to clash :'(

[VNA]

 

..............and if we lose that one also, then a third  [img alt=:lol width=20 height=20]http://foc-u.co.uk/file:///C:/Users/garet/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/img]

Or don’t bother – just stick Brexit in the bin.  We don't need a second, never mind a third.  It was a consultative referendum, it is not legally binding.  We are after all a representative democracy, and if the MP’s voted in the best interests of their constituents and the country as a whole it would be binned.


The leave campaign was driven on the back of bare faced lies, such as the 350 million a week for the NHS, right through to Turkey joining the EU and the whole population of Turkey moving to the UK.  Not to mention UKIP breaking point immigration poster.  Is this democracy?  I don't think so.


As Mtread points out, the referendum didn’t even define what leaving the EU meant.  Indeed, many BREXIT campaigners assured us we would still have access to the single market after leaving the EU!

Theres no argument for ANY political party, they should all be working together to find the best deal for us.

The best deal for the UK is to stay in the EU. 



Not to mention my country voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU, only England and Wales voted to leave.  Surely Scotland and Northern Ireland should remain - we voted to remain.



Meanwhile the UK is going nowhere politically, we are stagnating, whilst our idiotic leaders figure out how we are going to achieve what nobody ever thought would happen - what nobody made any plans for or even thought seriously about for one minute.  Let’s face it, they still ain’t even sure it’s even possible aside from the fact it is most certainly not desirable.

[steve 10562cc]

VNA I have just realised why you spout so much crap you ride a Honda C90 and you have been on the loosing side of 2 referendums grew up and suck it up.

[slappy]

VNA I have just realised why you spout so much crap you ride a Honda C90 and you have been on the loosing side of 2 referendums grew up and suck it up.

That will never happen, VNA is like all political arseholes, if you don't agree with all their shite then you are wrong because they know what is best for you,the sooner people all over the world realise that ALL  political and religious ideoligies are just a system invented for a few people to control the masses, without politics and religion people get on just fine, imagine a world with no political or  religious arseholes telling you what to do.

[Grayo]

[quote author=steve 10562cc link=topic=17546.msg274573#msg274573 date=1516999993]
VNA I have just realised why you spout so much crap you ride a Honda C90 and you have been on the loosing side of 2 referendums grew up and suck it up.

VNA is like all political arseholes, if you don't agree with all their shite then you are wrong because they know what is best for you.
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[stet]

...imagine a world with no political or  religious arseholes telling you what to do.

^ This

[Nemesis]

Order Order Order I say  :rollin

what gets my goat is that I have to pay national for another 18 years even thou ive now past the 30 year mark, oh well the children are our future, yeah god help us

[VNA]

  Ah the joys of foc-u.   Point out a few facts and you get called every name under the sun. :lol


Here’s some more shit to cheer up you daft BREXITEERS;


Yesterday the chancellor of the Exchequer in a speech delivered at DAVOS stated that there would only be "very modest" changes to relations between the EU and the UK after Brexit.  He praised a call by the CBI group of business leaders for Britain to have the “closest possible relationship between the EU and the UK post-Brexit.”


Meanwhile an ICM/Guardian survey finds that Britons favour a second referendum on the EU by a 16 point margin.


And here’s a final wee though for the anti-foreigner angry Brexit brigade.  It is well known that the older you are the more likely you are to favour or have voted for Brexit.  By the time we have actually BREXITED (that is making the big assumption that we actually do) enough older folks will have died off to suggest that a Brexit majority would no longer be possible. :thumbup


Anyway, VNA is off to dig oot his trusty flack jacket.  I anticipate mare name calling.

[fazersharp]

Why does VNA want scotland to breakaway from the UK

[VNA]

Why does VNA want scotland to breakaway from the UK

Let me put it this way, would you like the English government to be decided by the French?



So why would I want England to decide what government Scotland has.

[steve 10562cc]

VNA you have finally got it! Us British/English don't want  French, German, or any other European  country making our laws or telling  our elected government which ever party that might be what they can and can't do. Just the same as you don't want Scotland being ruled by a British government who's parliament building happens to be in London. 

[VNA]

VNA you have finally got it! Us British/English don't want  French, German, or any other European  country making our laws or telling  our elected government which ever party that might be what they can and can't do. Just the same as you don't want Scotland being ruled by a British government who's parliament building happens to be in London. 

  Umm no.  What the EU does is, work on and decide common standards and laws.  If you want to have a single market, all the advantages that go with it, then the reality is that you need common standards.  I don't have a problem with that - it's advantageous both economically and in terms of humanity plus good for our environment.



I don’t want to be ruled over by the English aristocracy, ie the Tory party.  I don’t want to be part of a country whose major export is arms and is active in fuelling conflict around the globe.  I don’t want to be part of a country that supports the apartheid state of Israel.  I don’t want to be part of a country that invests billions upon billions of pounds on illegal weapons of mass destruction.  I don’t want to be part of a country that doesn’t give a shit about ordinary people, no longer collects corporation tax and that thinks food banks are a welcome development.


And as for the EU, if the UK successfully leaves, the EU will remain to be our biggest trading partner, we will still need to abide by it’s rules (many of which are being adopted round the globe outside of the EU) but have no say in those rules and standards. 



Of course, the laugh is that if the UK does successfully leave the EU, that may well bring about the end of the UK.


What I want is an Independent Scotland with full EU membership.  Scottish first, EU second and Britain no thanks.

[Freck]

Foc’s Sake, are there no moderators around here?
If you want to have a political debate then can you please either start a new thread on the subject or foc off and go to a politics forum.  :rolleyes

[VNA]

Does political discussion get your goat Freck? :lol

[johnakay]

VNA another gormless twit who doesn't want to be ruled by the Engrish but quite happily but governed by the unelected.
doesn't make sense at all same thoughts as the little fat tea pot..

[steve 10562cc]

My apologies Freck should have there's no reasoning with a bigot 

[VNA]

I’m an arsehole and gormless twit, who spouts crap.
Wondering if I’m the bigot too, and if so how the foc I qualified for that?
:lol :lol