Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!

[fazersharp]

Ok so you are saying that the right hand unit is angled up for when the full beam second filament in the two filament bulb lights up along with the left hand units full beam filament. Giving a two light full beam. 

[BBROWN1664]

Left hand unit only has a single filament. It is for dipped beam only.

[darrsi]

Stupid design in fairness, which i believe was corrected in later models with 2 x H4 bulbs.

[YamFazFan]

Over the top extravagant whistling in public. Usually some old boy that's really proud that he reproduce a dawn chorus at full volume.

And people who have a fag constantly hanging out of their gob whilst driving without appearing to ever take it out to tip the ash.

[slappy]

And people who have a fag constantly hanging out of their gob whilst driving without appearing to ever take it out to tip the ash.

Bloody vapers are worse, either they have windows down laying down a smokescreen like a WW2 destoyer or the windows are closed and it looks like a smoke bomb has gone off inside the car, people seem unable to let go of the foccing things!

[Hugh Mungus]

They are unable to let go of them because they're worse than fags. At least you finish a fag whereas vapes go on all day.
People think they are less harmful than fags but we know virtually nothing about the effects of them.
I have a theory that they will be harder to kick than fags and in the long term will be more damaging - people are being fooled into believing that they are a clean substitute to smoking.

[Dudeofrude]

They are unable to let go of them because they're worse than fags. At least you finish a fag whereas vapes go on all day.
People think they are less harmful than fags but we know virtually nothing about the effects of them.
I have a theory that they will be harder to kick than fags and in the long term will be more damaging - people are being fooled into believing that they are a clean substitute to smoking.

Now I'm not and have never been a smoker (or 'vaper') but I can't honestly see how nicotine mixed with water vapour could be more harmful than a cigarette that's proven to contain nicotine, tar, and carbon monoxide, as well as formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic just to name a few.
The government are just pissed at the minute because they are losing shit tonnes of tax revenue from cigarettes so they are pushing these 'scientific' tests and reports that claim vaping is dangerous to try and dissuade people from doing it in the hope they'll then stop buying £5 bottles of oil that lasts a month and go back to spending £10 a day.
I'm sure they'll change their tune once they find a way to heavily tax vaping

[steve 10562cc]

Used to smoke players number 6 plain leave them in your mouth till they burnt your lips ex smoker now of 30years and yes could still start again never a  non smoker always an ex smoker

[celticbiker]

:agree
You still get that urge when someone lights up.
Vapes, contrary to popular belief, are not water, they are propeleneglycol. The same stuff they are making antifreeze out of these days.

[Hugh Mungus]

Now I'm not and have never been a smoker (or 'vaper') but I can't honestly see how nicotine mixed with water vapour could be more harmful than a cigarette that's proven to contain nicotine, tar, and carbon monoxide, as well as formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic just to name a few.

It is the nicotine that is the addictive part of smoking - yes all the other parts of the tobacco contain all the filth.
Vapes contain nicotine + whatever the carrying agent is - People are vaping more than they were smoking, their nicotine intake is higher than when they were smoking because it doesn't end. When the vape goes wrong (and they haven't got another one) they are smoking fags within 5 minutes because they need the nicotine.
I have tried a vape. I am allergic to them as they make me choke (I can smoke fags easily) so there is something in the carrying agent that is not good for you - the fact that other people can withstand the effects doesn't make them better than fags. We just aren't aware of the long term effects yet.


The only substitute to smoking is quit anything that contains nicotine.

[red98]

Easy way to quit smoking ............grow some balls and stop buying the foccin things...... :rolleyes




























lights the fuse and stands well back          :2guns 

[fazersharp]

What gets me is why they have to produce so much fake smoke - it just looks stupid

[Grahamm]

I have a theory that they will be harder to kick than fags and in the long term will be more damaging - people are being fooled into believing that they are a clean substitute to smoking.

Michael Mosley took up vaping as part of a BBC Documentary and commented:

To be honest when I took up vaping I wasn't that worried about the short term health effects. What I was far more concerned about was getting hooked on nicotine. Yet as the weeks went by and I puffed away, nothing happened. When I leapt out of bed I didn't feel a longing to reach for my machine. If anything I found it a bit of a chore.

Chatting to experts I discovered, to my considerable surprise, that although cigarettes are highly addictive, nicotine alone may not be. Although no-one knows for sure, research in animals suggests that nicotine is far more addictive when delivered in combination with the other chemicals found in regular cigarettes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36338280

[darrsi]

What gets me is why they have to produce so much fake smoke - it just looks stupid

They don't, that's just an add on effect if you like the idea of resembling a steam train.

[Hugh Mungus]

Michael Mosley took up vaping as part of a BBC Documentary

I can relate to some of the points but not all of them.


If he had been a smoker in the first place it would have given more weight to his views. As he wasn't already hooked on nicotine he didn't really have the desire for the vape as he had no withdrawal effects to relieve. Running the risk of becoming hooked for a documentary would be very silly and I wonder which level of nicotine he was using in his vape liquids, they can be very low or even contain no nicotine at all...


One of the reasons I believe vapes will be harder to quit is the fact that they taste nice - one of my mates said "It's like having sweets" (that is a direct quote) - most smokers want to quit fags because they taste foul. Don't worry about the health aspects, if smokers worried about it enough they'd have already quit.

Easy way to quit smoking ............grow some balls and stop buying the foccin things...... :rolleyes
lights the fuse and stands well back          :2guns 

Yep and the majority of smokers will agree with you - I certainly do. It's growing the balls that is the problem...

[YamFazFan]

Anyone would think that smoking is already a crime altogether in this country. It's still a legal product.

The government is happy to collect the tax from them, but then they'd say that's to put people off buying them I guess.

I'd heard that the tax revenue from them would cover the whole NHS budget, but I don't know if that claim is verified or substantiated.

[slappy]

Don't worry about the goverment losing tax revenue from cigs, they are just replacing that revenue with plans to raise tax on alcohol, salty snacks, chocolate, sweets etc because they are all bad for you so they are just doing it for your own good.

[steve 10562cc]

Don't know how I quit smoking tried loads of times, quit several time for 6/9 months always started again. Got up 1st Jan 1990  throw 20 players number 6 in the bin along with my lighter not touched one since, never set out or had any intention to do it that day I'd smoked 30 a day for 18 years. Still don't know how or why I stopped that time and not the other times I'd tried. Still could strangle a smoke on the odd occasion, but never touched one since that day.

[YamFazFan]

The thing I don't understand is why the UK government haven't already banned the sale of cigarettes.

It's been proven that they are harmful to health, as were a lot of other products which have been outlawed, but not fags?. Odd. I can't imagine it's the tax revenue?. Surely not? :rolleyes

[Hugh Mungus]

If they banned them for the dangers they would also have to ban alcohol and they ain't gonna do that.