(21-12-17, 01:46 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=His Dudeness link=topic=23573.msg272739#msg272739 date=1513859263]
They should alter the law but that doesn't make sitting there right. Hopefully your decision doesn't cost someone their life. If you got pictured going through a red for moving there would most likely be a picture of the ambulance going through the same red a few moments later so it wouldn't take the world's greatest lawyer to appeal the ticket
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Sitting there is right in the eyes of the law though. They clearly haven't been swayed enough by the morality of the issue to alter it have they. I wish they had.
You can only speculate on the nature of the emergency they are travelling to.
I'd be gutted if I found out later on that they'd gone to the aid of a burgler, or such like, stuck on the remains of someone's window he's just smashed and I'd copped a fine for that trash.
I'd definitely want a refund then.
If i had the knowledge they were racing to the aid of a burglar i would not be in any particular hurry to move or chance a fine, and hope the fucker suffers in the mean time
I don’t like burglars......scum of the earth.
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More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Many years ago when driving into Heathrow central area I was going through the tunnel in the outside lane, as I needed to turn right into the central carpark, when a police car came screaming up behind me on blues and twos. Now in the preceeding weeks they had been enthusiastically fining drivers for crossing the double white lines that run through the tunnel so I held my position.
I could see the occupants having a heated discussion, presumably about my driving, but I was not going to risk a fine for crossing the doubles and anyway the nearside lane was clear. The police car then started furiously flashing his lights so I assumed he wanted me to stop, which is what I did. Only then did the "highly trained" drivers behind seem to grasp the reason for my actions and drove around me, which they could easily have done earlier.
I used to not give a foc, then I discovered Red Bull and now I don't give a flying foc !!!
(22-12-17, 12:19 PM)DILLIGAFF link Wrote: Only then did the "highly trained" drivers behind seem to grasp the reason for my actions and drove around me, which they could easily have done earlier.
There is nothing "highly trained" about your average panda driver.
(22-12-17, 12:41 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: [quote author=DILLIGAFF link=topic=23573.msg272802#msg272802 date=1513941543]
Only then did the "highly trained" drivers behind seem to grasp the reason for my actions and drove around me, which they could easily have done earlier.
There is nothing "highly trained" about your average panda driver.
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This is very true....
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=23573.msg272798#msg272798 date=1513935944
If i had the knowledge they were racing to the aid of a burglar i would not be in any particular hurry to move or chance a fine, and hope the fucker suffers in the mean time
I don’t like burglars......scum of the earth.
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You're not wrong darrsi.
We've been burgled twice over the years.
The last time they took items that were of little monetary value, but great sentimental value as they originally belonged to my deceased Grandmother.
I'd happily pay them double to have them back.
These people are rotten to the core and the dregs of humanity.
There is nothing "highly trained" about your average panda driver.
Damn right. nearly got t-boned in my local Morrison's car park a few months ago by some plod far more interested on talking to the WPC next to him than looking for other vehicles as he pulled out. Looked V. sheepish afterwards though.. :lol
(21-12-17, 02:15 PM)His Dudeness link Wrote: Well if you were in trouble YamFazFan I'd move out of the way and take the ticket and let help get to you. Hopefully you'd do the same for me or anyone else. It's as simple as that.
Hey Dudeness we are talking about YamFazFan here, if he was in trouble the majority in here would reverse back up and try and run over him again, it's only fair. :lol
(24-12-17, 10:12 AM)tommyardin link Wrote: [quote author=His Dudeness link=topic=23573.msg272742#msg272742 date=1513862124]
Well if you were in trouble YamFazFan I'd move out of the way and take the ticket and let help get to you. Hopefully you'd do the same for me or anyone else. It's as simple as that.
Hey Dudeness we are talking about YamFazFan here, if he was in trouble the majority in here would reverse back up and try and run over him again, it's only fair. :lol
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Hold on!, how did I did suddenly get lumbered with that reputation!?. I've only disagreed on one issue! :finger :lol
God son failed his 1st driving test crossing the white line at a red light moving for a popo car.
Examiner said it was bad luck and common sense to move but also against the law.
(24-12-17, 07:04 PM)5LV link Wrote: God son failed his 1st driving test crossing the white line at a red light moving for a popo car.
Examiner said it was bad luck and common sense to move but also against the law.
Rather harsh, you'd think they'd let that one slide?
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(24-12-17, 10:32 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=5LV link=topic=23573.msg272923#msg272923 date=1514138664]
God son failed his 1st driving test crossing the white line at a red light moving for a popo car.
Examiner said it was bad luck and common sense to move but also against the law.
Rather harsh, you'd think they'd let that one slide?
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Unfortunately they can't, otherwise the Examiner could have lost his job.
The law on this really needs fixing, but there just isn't the desire or impetus to do anything about it at the moment
(25-12-17, 12:56 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23573.msg272937#msg272937 date=1514151175]
[quote author=5LV link=topic=23573.msg272923#msg272923 date=1514138664]
God son failed his 1st driving test crossing the white line at a red light moving for a popo car.
Examiner said it was bad luck and common sense to move but also against the law.
Rather harsh, you'd think they'd let that one slide?
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Unfortunately they can't, otherwise the Examiner could have lost his job.
The law on this really needs fixing, but there just isn't the desire or impetus to do anything about it at the moment
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Exactly.
I think the law needs altering too.
But that is how the law stands at the present time and anyone urging people to do different is encouraging law breaking. Simple
As a blue light driver I don't expect anyone to put them selves at risk for me to get through - crossing a red light is a big risk !
The one thing we want is drivers to be predictable in their reaction to us - often we will kill the horns as we approach if we can see it is gridlocked ahead - we also will inform control that we are making slow progress which will often prompt a duel turn out.
Its a bad bit of blue light driving if you fly up to a block of stationary traffic and sit there with all the sound on expecting everyone to shift for you - there are often better ways to get through gridlocked city junctions.
No good blue light driver should expect you to put your self at risk, break the law or even damage your vehicle by bumping up the kerb to let them through.
It is illegal to go through a red traffic light no matter what.
However it is usually allowed to slide if you are making way for emergency vehicles if they are using their lights and or sirens (not sure about the doctors with their green lights but would assume the same)
More of an issue with traffic light cameras but I use a crash cam so hope that would show why I went through or partially trough a red ATL. Also if the camera takes your photo then it should also take the emergency vehicles picture so they would also have proof of the vehicle and that it was on "blues and two's" while crossing a red light.
IMHO that is
Dont ask it's a chef thing
After 15 years EX-Fazer owner XJR. XJR gone FJR, FJR gone NEW FJR that's gone, now Triumph Tiger Explorer an CB400n Superdream sold BMW 650 Funduro sold Now a R1200GA Adventure Rallye next ? OK so where next turns out to be V-Strom 1050 NEXT?
(29-12-17, 02:23 PM)dx408 link Wrote: It is illegal to go through a red traffic light no matter what.
However it is usually allowed to slide if you are making way for emergency vehicles if they are using their lights and or sirens (not sure about the doctors with their green lights but would assume the same)
More of an issue with traffic light cameras but I use a crash cam so hope that would show why I went through or partially trough a red ATL. Also if the camera takes your photo then it should also take the emergency vehicles picture so they would also have proof of the vehicle and that it was on "blues and two's" while crossing a red light.
IMHO that is
Nobody answered my previous question before so i'll ask again?
What exactly are you s'posed to do when the lights are stuck on red??
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
29-12-17, 06:22 PM (This post was last modified: 29-12-17, 06:23 PM by tommyardin.)
[size=1em]There has been an article in MCN recently saying that it is even illegal to push a motorcycle across, (not along, but across) a pavement if it does not have road side drop kerbs, drop kerbs constitute a right of passage for a motor vehicle, as in someone driveway.[/size] I am assuming that Motor Cycle News know what they are on about.
[size=1em]Pavements are for pedestrians, Bus lanes are for buses, if you go on to either of them you could be prosecuted, no matter what the circumstances, [/size] [size=1em]Just as Red Light means stop, being bullied or coerced into crossing the white line at a red stop light by a emergency vehicle is no excuse in law, you are responsible for your actions, cross a red light and be caught on camera or seen by a heartless officer you will be prosecuted.[/size]
[size=1em]The Highway Code states that a red light means stop.[/size] [size=1em]So I guess you should not proceed until a green light is showing, proceed on a red at your peril, there are people who have that right of way travelling at 90 degrees to you, take one of them out and someone loses their life it is death by dangerous driving.[/size]
[size=1em]My understanding is if an ambulance, Fire Engine, Police car takes out a car by crossing on a red he will be prosecuted also. The law does allow an emergency vehicle to cross red light, but the rule is proceed with caution, take a car out then there was no caution and therefore it's dangerous driving. [/size]
29-12-17, 06:42 PM (This post was last modified: 29-12-17, 06:44 PM by tommyardin.)
N[size=1em]o red lights on this journey but was I breaking the law?[/size]
[size=1em]NO MOT[/size] [size=1em]NO INSURANCE[/size] [size=1em]NO TAX [/size] [size=1em]NO FRONT BRAKE [/size] [size=1em]SPEEDOMETER CABLE BROKEN[/size] [size=1em]SOFT/PUNCTURED FRONT TYRE[/size] [size=1em]VEHICLE NOT REGISTERED IN MY NAME.[/size]
[size=1em]Pushing just purchased C90 home, 1.5 mile push, Mrs tommyardin helped push and took photo, Bless her :lol [/size] [size=1em]Soft front tyre made it a bugger to push.[/size] :o I was dressed for the task though :lol
A bike mechanic friend once told me that the Honda C90's were the most reliable machines they worked on back in the day.
He said pretty much the only issue they came up against was when customers attempting a home service mistakenly removed the cam chain tensioner bolt instead of the oil drain one.
