(25-10-17, 07:57 AM)Dave48 link Wrote: What Gets My Goat?......It would be easier to make a list of the few things that DONT!
Politicians,Religions, Brexit, The Media, Cagers, the moronic TV programmes designed to cater for the brain dead, "Celebrities", Spokespersons, Interviewers asking really stupid questions, Facebook,the general dumbing down of everything, the compensation culture, the willingness to blame others for ones own shortcomings etc etc. What a state of affairs :eek
You are me!
(25-10-17, 08:21 AM)F4celess link Wrote: That was YOU in the TVR !? :lol :thumbup
Admittedly in an 80bhp Focus I rarely come across this problem! :lol
Broken, bruised, forgotten, sore,
too fucked up to care any more.
(25-10-17, 02:53 PM)slappy link Wrote: [quote author=Dave48 link=topic=17546.msg270392#msg270392 date=1508914656]
What Gets My Goat?......It would be easier to make a list of the few things that DONT!
Politicians,Religions, Brexit, The Media, Cagers, the moronic TV programmes designed to cater for the brain dead, "Celebrities", Spokespersons, Interviewers asking really stupid questions, Facebook,the general dumbing down of everything, the compensation culture, the willingness to blame others for ones own shortcomings etc etc. What a state of affairs :eek
You are me!
Desperately trying not to become like Victor Meldrew( At least I still have some hair on my head! :lol )
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The reason for poor driving is the lack of dedicated traffic police the politicians can pass all the laws they want but if there's no one to enforce them they are pointless. It appears that they just want to use speed cameras to collect revenue not enforce the laws they pass. Perhaps if they used that revenue to fund traffic officer we would all be safer on the roads.
Scooter twat slowly tried to overtake me this morning as i was doing a right turn?
Once the bastard made me jump, i put my right hand out right across his lid and he braked, luckily for him.
Then i glimpsed the 'L' plate as he undertook me.
It's not being drummed into people enough on real dangerous moves, even on a CBT.
I'm not blaming anyone in general, but some people need a lot more training on the road to avoid unnecessary shite.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(25-10-17, 08:46 PM)steve 10562cc link Wrote: The reason for poor driving is the lack of dedicated traffic police the politicians can pass all the laws they want but if there's no one to enforce them they are pointless. It appears that they just want to use speed cameras to collect revenue not enforce the laws they pass. Perhaps if they used that revenue to terminate traffic officers we would all be safer on the roads to go much faster.
(25-10-17, 11:46 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Scooter twat slowly tried to overtake me this morning as i was doing a right turn?
Once the bastard made me jump, i put my right hand out right across his lid and he braked, luckily for him.
Then i glimpsed the 'L' plate as he undertook me.
It's not being drummed into people enough on real dangerous moves, even on a CBT.
I'm not blaming anyone in general, but some people need a lot more training on the road to avoid unnecessary shite.
How about the fast food (usually pizza) delivery guys, on the scooters? It would be debatable if they even sat a CBT!
Absolutely ZERO consideration for other road vehicles (cars or bikes) or even traffic lights, etc - on off the pavements. "Helping" give motorcyclists a bad image.
(26-10-17, 08:24 AM)F4celess link Wrote: How about the fast food (usually pizza) delivery guys, on the scooters? It would be debatable if they even sat a CBT!
Absolutely ZERO consideration for other road vehicles (cars or bikes) or even traffic lights, etc - on off the pavements. "Helping" give motorcyclists a bad image. I do wonder about the legality of employing someone to deliver stuff who hasn't got a full driving licence.
Malc
Old enough to know better.
(26-10-17, 11:08 AM)crickleymal link Wrote: [quote author=F4celess link=topic=17546.msg270443#msg270443 date=1509002673]
How about the fast food (usually pizza) delivery guys, on the scooters? It would be debatable if they even sat a CBT!
Absolutely ZERO consideration for other road vehicles (cars or bikes) or even traffic lights, etc - on off the pavements. "Helping" give motorcyclists a bad image. I do wonder about the legality of employing someone to deliver stuff who hasn't got a full driving licence.
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.... Probably don't even own a UK passport either! :lol
(26-10-17, 11:08 AM)crickleymal link Wrote: [quote author=F4celess link=topic=17546.msg270443#msg270443 date=1509002673]
How about the fast food (usually pizza) delivery guys, on the scooters? It would be debatable if they even sat a CBT!
Absolutely ZERO consideration for other road vehicles (cars or bikes) or even traffic lights, etc - on off the pavements. "Helping" give motorcyclists a bad image. I do wonder about the legality of employing someone to deliver stuff who hasn't got a full driving licence.
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.... Probably don't even own a UK passport either! :lol
Once that helmet is on - nobody is going to know what they look like/who they are. Just like the London scooter "bike thieves" - the Police turn a blind eye.
(26-10-17, 11:08 AM)crickleymal link Wrote: [quote author=F4celess link=topic=17546.msg270443#msg270443 date=1509002673]
How about the fast food (usually pizza) delivery guys, on the scooters? It would be debatable if they even sat a CBT!
Absolutely ZERO consideration for other road vehicles (cars or bikes) or even traffic lights, etc - on off the pavements. "Helping" give motorcyclists a bad image. I do wonder about the legality of employing someone to deliver stuff who hasn't got a full driving licence.
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They are licenced to ride (assuming they have done the CBT) with a provisional licence so it is legal even if it doesn't seem right.
If any of the riders get injured in an accident, their insurance company may throw a wobbly if the company has not done their own health and safety checks to confirm that the rider is capable though.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
I don't care whether the pizza boy is legal or not just so long as he gets here before the pizza goes cold.
(26-10-17, 11:30 AM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: [quote author=crickleymal link=topic=17546.msg270455#msg270455 date=1509012531]
[quote author=F4celess link=topic=17546.msg270443#msg270443 date=1509002673]
How about the fast food (usually pizza) delivery guys, on the scooters? It would be debatable if they even sat a CBT!
Absolutely ZERO consideration for other road vehicles (cars or bikes) or even traffic lights, etc - on off the pavements. "Helping" give motorcyclists a bad image. I do wonder about the legality of employing someone to deliver stuff who hasn't got a full driving licence.
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They are licenced to ride (assuming they have done the CBT) with a provisional licence so it is legal even if it doesn't seem right.
If any of the riders get injured in an accident, their insurance company may throw a wobbly if the company has not done their own health and safety checks to confirm that the rider is capable though.
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Just thinking about your comments BB make me wonder if standard domestic and pleasure insurance would cover delivering pizza or any other commodity, as they are earning a living from the use of the bike and not just using it to get to and from your place of work.
Making deliveries sort of make it a commercial thing, I know Churchill will not insure my van I have to go to Budget Van insurance to insure that, I have my Fazer and my Merc insured with Churchill but they will not touch my van. (Commercial Insurance)
(26-10-17, 12:04 PM)Hugh Mungus link Wrote: I don't care whether the pizza boy is legal or not just so long as he gets here before the pizza goes cold.
Mmmmmmm Pizza :lol
(26-10-17, 12:05 PM)tommyardin link Wrote: Just thinking about your comments BB make me wonder if standard domestic and pleasure insurance would cover delivering pizza or any other commodity, as they are earning a living from the use of the bike and not just using it to get to and from your place of work.
Making deliveries sort of make it a commercial thing, I know Churchill will not insure my van I have to go to Budget Van insurance to insure that, I have my Fazer and my Merc insured with Churchill but they will not touch my van. (Commercial Insurance)
Dominos etc will have business use insurance on their bikes that covers any rider.
My car (and bike) insurance has Class 1 business but both specifically exclude food delivery.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
(26-10-17, 12:11 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: My car (and bike) insurance has Class 1 business but both specifically exclude food delivery.
So if you popped out in the evening, as you fancied bringing home a takeaway, you'd have to walk??
I now understand why you've been defending illegal pizza delivery (scooter) guys. :lol
no - That comes under pleasure unless I am being paid to deliver it.
I am not defending the moronic riders of those scooters, I was just saying that despite it being wrong on lots of levels, it is legal.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
(26-10-17, 12:29 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: no - That comes under pleasure unless I am being paid to deliver it.
I am not defending the moronic riders of those scooters, I was just saying that despite it being wrong on lots of levels, it is legal.
Pizza is only illegal if you main line it :eek
(26-10-17, 12:05 PM)tommyardin link Wrote: Just thinking about your comments BB make me wonder if standard domestic and pleasure insurance would cover delivering pizza or any other commodity
Simple answer: No.
Pizza companies etc have their own insurance for their mopeds. To insure a regular bike for such work will probably cost several thousand quid!
(26-10-17, 11:30 AM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: [quote author=crickleymal link=topic=17546.msg270455#msg270455 date=1509012531]
[quote author=F4celess link=topic=17546.msg270443#msg270443 date=1509002673]
How about the fast food (usually pizza) delivery guys, on the scooters? It would be debatable if they even sat a CBT!
Absolutely ZERO consideration for other road vehicles (cars or bikes) or even traffic lights, etc - on off the pavements. "Helping" give motorcyclists a bad image. I do wonder about the legality of employing someone to deliver stuff who hasn't got a full driving licence.
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They are licenced to ride (assuming they have done the CBT) with a provisional licence so it is legal even if it doesn't seem right.
If any of the riders get injured in an accident, their insurance company may throw a wobbly if the company has not done their own health and safety checks to confirm that the rider is capable though.
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Ever seen one that looks capable? 'Reckless' would be a better word, which seems to be a necessity when delivering a pizza.
I reckon if they get injured they end up as a "Meat Feast Pizza". :look
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
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