Electric bike

[VNA]

Generation and transmission losses mean only about 33% of the energy in the gas appears as electricity by the time it reaches the end user.

I'm no expert but I reckon that with the latest Combined Cycle Gas Turbine technology, well it's possible over 50% of the energy in the gas can be available as electrcity to the end user.

The big drawback,as I see it, preventing long term strategic & coherent planning re energy, health & social services,etc etc is that we "elect" a party who are in power for the short term(4-5 years) between elections.

  I think there a bigger problem.  Before the privatisation of the electricity industry it was a government responsibility to plan, provide and ensure we had a reliable and sustainable electricity industry with the highest possible level of service – and not to mention fair and reasonable charges.  The industry post ww2 came along leaps and bounds under what was basically socialist management.  We had an electricity industry the envy of the world.  Massive investment continued through the 60’s, 70’s and then with the Thatcher coming to power was more or less halted in the 80’s.


Then of course the Tories decided to privatised it all.  Apparently, no more government control and funding would be required.  Private companies would come along, invest, build and provide us with the infrastructure and service that we needed.


Of course, as predicted by anybody with half a brain it’s been huge disaster, that is apart from the rich Tory bastards who ripped us all off and got richer on the back of the electricity privatisation and the privatisation agenda in general.  It’s said that today the big energy bosses all have backup generators installed in their mansions.


Now, once leaders in generation, we are reliant (though still largely through political choice) on other countries to provide our infrastructure and service.  And the priority of those companies is not what we need but what will make them the most money, and enable them to take as much profit out of the UK as they possibly can.


Which brings us neatly back to that policy announcement.  Yup it’s just ink on paper.

[slimwilly]

Van, keep taking the tablets, you ain't right yet

[crickleymal]

I think VNA has a very valid point. Privatisation has done the industry no favours. It's a debatable point as to whether investment would have been funded if the industry was still nationalised though.

[fazerscotty]

The industry (as was many at the time) was privatised to reduce the effect the unions could have and the result - a distinct lack of strike action and disruption following privatisation.
Simples!
However, this thread has drifted slightly from the original post - I do not think I will be investing in either an electric car or bike. The cost will be stupid and not just in pound notes. It will be public transport for me after the last infernal combustion engine goes..........

[slappy]

The industry (as was many at the time) was privatised to reduce the effect the unions could have and the result - a distinct lack of strike action and disruption following privatisation.
Simples!
However, this thread has drifted slightly from the original post - I do not think I will be investing in either an electric car or bike. The cost will be stupid and not just in pound notes. It will be public transport for me after the last infernal combustion engine goes..........

But what will that public transport be using for power?
And if everybody does the same how many buses and trains will be needed at peak times?
Public transport will never be a feasible option, when I am on the early shift I leave home at 4.45am and never see a bus!

[Dudeofrude]

Push bike it is then.....

[fazerscotty]

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The industry (as was many at the time) was privatised to reduce the effect the unions could have and the result - a distinct lack of strike action and disruption following privatisation.
Simples!
However, this thread has drifted slightly from the original post - I do not think I will be investing in either an electric car or bike. The cost will be stupid and not just in pound notes. It will be public transport for me after the last infernal combustion engine goes..........

But what will that public transport be using for power?
And if everybody does the same how many buses and trains will be needed at peak times?
Public transport will never be a feasible option, when I am on the early shift I leave home at 4.45am and never see a bus!

Do you plan to be working in 2040? I don't  :rollin :rollin :rollin
As for power, public vehicles (buses, refuse etc) went to LPG years ago in Spain (Madrid I think) in a bid to reduce the pollution.
In the larger cities, Trams are being re-introduced (electric).
It is a shame that the same policies seem to be ignored in this country.
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