I use this stuff once a year, and have found it to be one of the only liquids that actually does a good job.
Plus it makes a change to get a good deal out of Halfords for once.
Just been pointed out that it's 50% off in store.
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-...trol-400ml
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Good shout darrsi, been after getting some redex so might give this a go instead. Rather something that someone's had some kind of results from ?
(22-01-17, 08:05 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: Good shout darrsi, been after getting some redex so might give this a go instead. Rather something that someone's had some kind of results from ?
I've tried Redex several times over the years but without any noticeable difference.
Make sure you only buy the "Complete Fuel System" version though.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
ok, I'll be the first with the numpty questions
1. I take it you're putting it in the bike as opposed to a cage?
2. are you running fuel low, putting this in then topping the tank up?
end of numptiness :lol
fire never sleeps
(23-01-17, 11:32 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: ok, I'll be the first with the numpty questions
1. I take it you're putting it in the bike as opposed to a cage?
2. are you running fuel low, putting this in then topping the tank up? Mixes better this way fella !
end of numptiness :lol
Numpty Q answered. Basics....................feckin basics :lol
Those are my principles...if you don't like them I have others.
Never driven a car, so not applicable to me.
I think a bottle is meant to treat about 60 litres of fuel (don't quote me on that) but i now shove the whole bottle into a full tank of fuel and let it do its thing.
I use it 'cos of my daily short runs, i don't get to blast the bike as much as i'd like these days, so it certainly works for me.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
There are several petrols available that claim to do the same thing as the STP stuff, so if you must, you might as well just use BP Ultimate or a similar fuel rather than waste money on a 'treatment'.
It is debateable if these cleaners do anything at all really, if you think your carbs, pipes etc really are dirty causing poor running then the proper response is to dismantle them and clean them up properly, or at very least remove and inspect what lies at the bottom of a float bowl for clues to any contamination. If you really do have a problem then adding snake oil and hoping for the best is a waste of time and money.
You never see before and after pictures of what these treatments are supposed to do, anybody got some?
(24-01-17, 11:43 AM)Simon.Pieman link Wrote: There are several petrols available that claim to do the same thing as the STP stuff, so if you must, you might as well just use BP Ultimate or a similar fuel rather than waste money on a 'treatment'.
It is debateable if these cleaners do anything at all really, if you think your carbs, pipes etc really are dirty causing poor running then the proper response is to dismantle them and clean them up properly, or at very least remove and inspect what lies at the bottom of a float bowl for clues to any contamination. If you really do have a problem then adding snake oil and hoping for the best is a waste of time and money.
You never see before and after pictures of what these treatments are supposed to do, anybody got some?
If you don't want it then don't fucking buy it you whingebag, nobody's forcing you are they???
Crikey, I try and do people a favour with stuff I've used over the years, and due to my short commutes I've found it to clear up any throatiness my bike has developed over time.
If you don't believe me, then I couldn't really give a shit, I'm not spending your money!
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(24-01-17, 12:12 PM)darrsi link Wrote: If you don't want it then don't fucking buy it you whingebag, nobody's forcing you are they???
Crikey, I try and do people a favour with stuff I've used over the years, and due to my short commutes I've found it to clear up any throatiness my bike has developed over time.
If you don't believe me, then I couldn't really give a shit, I'm not spending your money!
So, I see, you want to use this forum as a noticeboard for your own personal proclamations and those who don't agree with you can expect an infantile response.
I thought forums were for discussion, I merely stated why I don't use this stuff (and by the way, most of us don't) and the reasons why.
Doing people a favour? Well, saving them money is a favour too.
(24-01-17, 12:24 PM)Simon.Pieman link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=21711.msg250718#msg250718 date=1485256348]
If you don't want it then don't fucking buy it you whingebag, nobody's forcing you are they???
Crikey, I try and do people a favour with stuff I've used over the years, and due to my short commutes I've found it to clear up any throatiness my bike has developed over time.
If you don't believe me, then I couldn't really give a shit, I'm not spending your money!
So, I see, you want to use this forum as a noticeboard for your own personal proclamations and those who don't agree with you can expect an infantile response.
I thought forums were for discussion, I merely stated why I don't use this stuff (and by the way, most of us don't) and the reasons why.
Doing people a favour? Well, saving them money is a favour too.
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All you've done is slag the product off, most likely without even ever trying it no doubt, which is your choice, and have indirectly hinted that it's totally useless.
Well i think you're talking bollocks, that's my opinion.
And great, you don't use it, bully for you, but that doesn't make anyone else an idiot for giving it a go does it?
You weren't discussing, you were sniping.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
The reviews left on the Halfords website from car users all seem very positive and i think for £7.50 a pot this isnt bad value for money, if if its helped a car driver through an emmissions test and subsequent MOT Pass surely its worth it for that?
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-...trol-400ml
Aftermarket additives often seem to generate an almost religious faith, typified by the sort of abusive over-reaction you get when you suggest some scientific evidence would be useful.
I haven't tried any of these treatments, regarding them as a complete rip-off. Added to which, I'd be very reluctant to use anything containing solvents such as xylene or trimethylbenzene as they're damaging to most types of rubber.
There's never been anything in my carbs by way of varnish deposits that these overpriced paraffin/detergent/paint thinner mixtures would be able to shift. The only time they have have suffered blocked jets it's been with inorganic metal salts and hydroxides caused by bimetallic corrosion... physical cleaning has been the solution.
I'd agree with the Pieman, the occasional tankful of high-detergent fuel is probably a more economical way of dealing with any varnish. And a long hard thrash is a more effective (and enjoyable) way of burning off any carbon deposits caused by a lot of short, slow journeys... it also has the side-effect of turning any mayonnaise in the sump back into oil.
(24-01-17, 02:10 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Simon.Pieman link=topic=21711.msg250720#msg250720 date=1485257092]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=21711.msg250718#msg250718 date=1485256348]
If you don't want it then don't fucking buy it you whingebag, nobody's forcing you are they???
Crikey, I try and do people a favour with stuff I've used over the years, and due to my short commutes I've found it to clear up any throatiness my bike has developed over time.
If you don't believe me, then I couldn't really give a shit, I'm not spending your money!
So, I see, you want to use this forum as a noticeboard for your own personal proclamations and those who don't agree with you can expect an infantile response.
I thought forums were for discussion, I merely stated why I don't use this stuff (and by the way, most of us don't) and the reasons why.
Doing people a favour? Well, saving them money is a favour too.
[/quote]
All you've done is slag the product off, most likely without even ever trying it no doubt, which is your choice, and have indirectly hinted that it's totally useless.
Well i think you're talking bollocks, that's my opinion.
And great, you don't use it, bully for you, but that doesn't make anyone else an idiot for giving it a go does it?
You weren't discussing, you were sniping.
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Why would i want to try it? My bike runs fine thanks and my fuel system is still every bit as clean as yours, with the bonus being I don't throw away money buying nonesense products in the meantime.
If you have a rough running machine get a diagnosis and then you'll know how it should be repaired, that's an engineering philosophy that goes back to the spinning wheel. A machine that sounds a bit 'throaty' is not a diagnosis of anything. Using STP just for the sake of it is like taking chloroquine every day just in case that cough you have is 'probably' malaria.
(24-01-17, 04:17 PM)Simon.Pieman link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=21711.msg250726#msg250726 date=1485263403]
[quote author=Simon.Pieman link=topic=21711.msg250720#msg250720 date=1485257092]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=21711.msg250718#msg250718 date=1485256348]
If you don't want it then don't fucking buy it you whingebag, nobody's forcing you are they???
Crikey, I try and do people a favour with stuff I've used over the years, and due to my short commutes I've found it to clear up any throatiness my bike has developed over time.
If you don't believe me, then I couldn't really give a shit, I'm not spending your money!
So, I see, you want to use this forum as a noticeboard for your own personal proclamations and those who don't agree with you can expect an infantile response.
I thought forums were for discussion, I merely stated why I don't use this stuff (and by the way, most of us don't) and the reasons why.
Doing people a favour? Well, saving them money is a favour too.
[/quote]
All you've done is slag the product off, most likely without even ever trying it no doubt, which is your choice, and have indirectly hinted that it's totally useless.
Well i think you're talking bollocks, that's my opinion.
And great, you don't use it, bully for you, but that doesn't make anyone else an idiot for giving it a go does it?
You weren't discussing, you were sniping.
[/quote]
Using STP just for the sake of it is like taking chloroquine every day just in case that cough you have is 'probably' malaria.
[/quote]
Coughing is not a symptom of Malaria......... Just saying.......... :thumbup
I could change my opinion, but then we'd both be wrong.
(24-01-17, 05:01 PM)Grayo link Wrote: [quote author=Simon.Pieman link=topic=21711.msg250733#msg250733 date=1485271066]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=21711.msg250726#msg250726 date=1485263403]
[quote author=Simon.Pieman link=topic=21711.msg250720#msg250720 date=1485257092]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=21711.msg250718#msg250718 date=1485256348]
If you don't want it then don't fucking buy it you whingebag, nobody's forcing you are they???
Crikey, I try and do people a favour with stuff I've used over the years, and due to my short commutes I've found it to clear up any throatiness my bike has developed over time.
If you don't believe me, then I couldn't really give a shit, I'm not spending your money!
So, I see, you want to use this forum as a noticeboard for your own personal proclamations and those who don't agree with you can expect an infantile response.
I thought forums were for discussion, I merely stated why I don't use this stuff (and by the way, most of us don't) and the reasons why.
Doing people a favour? Well, saving them money is a favour too.
[/quote]
All you've done is slag the product off, most likely without even ever trying it no doubt, which is your choice, and have indirectly hinted that it's totally useless.
Well i think you're talking bollocks, that's my opinion.
And great, you don't use it, bully for you, but that doesn't make anyone else an idiot for giving it a go does it?
You weren't discussing, you were sniping.
[/quote]
Using STP just for the sake of it is like taking chloroquine every day just in case that cough you have is 'probably' malaria.
[/quote]
Coughing is not a symptom of Malaria......... Just saying.......... :thumbup
[/quote]
intentional false analogy.
:lurk
Red Heads - Slowly taking over the world!!!
As I pointed out earlier, you were sniping.
Now you're just being an argumentative twat, which I presume was your sole intention in the first place.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Can we get back to arguing about politics again :evil
(24-01-17, 06:08 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Now you're just being an argumentative twat, which I presume was your sole intention in the first place.
Well it wasn't, a counter explanation on why you think your bike needs magic potions to run properly was all i expected not arguement.
Why the offensive perjorative? How old are you?
(24-01-17, 06:42 PM)Simon.Pieman link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=21711.msg250746#msg250746 date=1485277710]
Now you're just being an argumentative twat, which I presume was your sole intention in the first place.
Well it wasn't, a counter explanation on why you think your bike needs magic potions to run properly was all i expected not arguement.
Why the offensive perjorative? How old are you?
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Waz two!! As four the perjorative, he isn't in kort and isn't lying :pokefun
Those are my principles...if you don't like them I have others.
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