Rules of the road please help

[BBROWN1664]

CBT for cyclists - Something like the Cycling proficiency thing we used to do at school???

Many schools still do this though my youngest blames his lack of road skills on the fact that his school switched from doing it with yr6 students to yr5 students when he went to yr6. Stupid school decided it was too disruptive and costly to double up that year and do the yr6 students that missed out as well.

When I was younger, all cyclists over the age of about 10 rode on the road. Now very few do and the ones that do, ignore all the traffic lights etc.

[Fazerider]

Completely agree that training ought to be compulsory for cyclists.


Another issue is cycle lane markings at some junctions that seems intended to put cyclists in harm's way. There are several places on my route to work in W12 where a turn-off to the left has a dedicated left-only lane for traffic, but the cycle lane continues to be marked as such right up to the stop line/ASL. You then have cyclists intending to go straight on, riding up the inside of traffic turning left.

[fazersharp]

Completely agree that training ought to be compulsory for cyclists.


Another issue is cycle lane markings at some junctions that seems intended to put cyclists in harm's way. There are several places on my route to work in W12 where a turn-off to the left has a dedicated left-only lane for traffic, but the cycle lane continues to be marked as such right up to the stop line/ASL. You then have cyclists intending to go straight on, riding up the inside of traffic turning left.

Round here we have a separate green section covering the whole width of the lane at the lights with cars having a separate stop line further back

[Fazerider]

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Completely agree that training ought to be compulsory for cyclists.


Another issue is cycle lane markings at some junctions that seems intended to put cyclists in harm's way. There are several places on my route to work in W12 where a turn-off to the left has a dedicated left-only lane for traffic, but the cycle lane continues to be marked as such right up to the stop line/ASL. You then have cyclists intending to go straight on, riding up the inside of traffic turning left.

Round here we have a separate green section covering the whole width of the lane at the lights with cars having a separate stop line further back
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Yes, the Advanced Stop Line.
Only about 1% of cyclists get themselves into the correct position on the road for going straight on whether or not they have to wait in the green zone because they're reluctant to leave the "safety" of the cycle lane.
A solution might be to end the cycle lane 25 metres before the ASL and paint "Get In Lane" just before that point.

[Graham53]

all that road tax payers money spent on road markings,junctions, special lanes and solutions on a group that pays no road tax towards it ...... that makes financial sense
I think snipers positioned strategically around major cities are the answer ..... any cyclist ignoring a light  :2guns

A quick action sedative dart in the arse , stop over the line too far  :2guns in fact any cycling misdemeanour
They'll all be road rule abiding cyclists in no time  :lol

[mtread]

The trouble is ........... to make anything (insurance, testing etc) about cycling 'compulsory' you'd have to register every bike and/or rider. That's not going to happen, is it because of the overhead? Can you imagine the police stopping every yoof on his MBX and asking to see his licence?
Cyclists are subject to the laws of the road as much as anybody else, and if they cause damage can be sued.
I was hit by a pheasant once. Typical, no licence, no insurance ......

[Fazerider]

I was hit by a pheasant once. Typical, no licence, no insurance ......

Happened to me once too. I had the last laugh though... I ate the bastard.  :lol

[Grahamm]

Yes, the Advanced Stop Line.
Only about 1% of cyclists get themselves into the correct position on the road for going straight on whether or not they have to wait in the green zone because they're reluctant to leave the "safety" of the cycle lane.

And how about all those motorists who don't know (or don't give a foc) that that Advanced Stop Line is for *CYCLES* only? Theoretically, of course, they could be fined for stopping their car in one, but, as with the cyclists who jump red lights, they know that this is very unlikely ever to happen.

What we need is better training for *ALL* road users. Ironically, it's now the bikers who actually have to have the most training...