EU in or out ?

[lew600fazer]

Ah!!! did miss something what fecking deal, the twat has got nothing. No wonder he made it known months ago he will not stand for a third term as PM.
If Boris says out that is good enough for me  :rollin

[Val]

Looking forward to the Boris and Trump debates in the future!  :eek :eek :eek

OMG how exactly we can recognise who is who there on the debate?? They both have the same haircut  :eek :eek :eek

[Slaninar]

If I understand the politics correctly, if you want Germany to run your monetary policy and Romanians to work for less money in all the service businesses, then you should join the EU.


As far as refugees go:

[slimwilly]

This is probably the reason we never accepted the Euro,,the Pound is ours and will continue, I think this was always on the books, we have to get out and make it alone,,it's all about making our own rules and policing our own borders, at the moment we have to let in all the Romanian,Slovakian benefit tourists and send them family allowance back home for their kids,,what a fookin joke,
There is 3 million of them working here ,paying taxes but the lowest rate of tax,,then they claim it all back in benefits,,JOKE

[Slaninar]

Look on the bright side: as long as your country is the one people run to for benefits, you should be happy. 

[mr self destruct]

This is probably the reason we never accepted the Euro,,the Pound is ours and will continue, I think this was always on the books, we have to get out and make it alone,,it's all about making our own rules and policing our own borders, at the moment we have to let in all the Romanian,Slovakian benefit tourists and send them family allowance back home for their kids,,what a fookin joke,
There is 3 million of them working here ,paying taxes but the lowest rate of tax,,then they claim it all back in benefits,,JOKE

This is the reason there shouldn't be a referendum at all, this is the depth of knowledge that the UK public has.
We've been fed nothing but Newspaper headlines, slogans and soundbites designed to stir up hatred/panic on both sides of the argument, and from this we're expected to make one of the most important decisions the UK has faced in the last 45 years? THAT is the fucking joke!


I say let those who actually know something in detail about the subject make the decision.

[dazza]

That would be me then,. For years I have seen our positions at work devalued as the influx of migrant workers have flooded my industry working for less and less. Bosses have cottened on to this and have started to use it as leverage to squeeze our money.
A typical Eastern European can work over here for 5 years and save enough money to buy themselves a lovely property back in their own country outright. Meanwhile, collecting child benefit for every child and sending it abroad. Using loophole companies to pay tthe minimum amount of tax and national insurance so they are not contributing as we are lead to believe.
The British worker is getting squeezed and into debt as they have higher overheads and with their children living in this country the child benefit is not worth as much as it is in Romania or Bulgaria for example.
Europe telling us we have no control over this,  not to mention the amount of radicalized  maniacs slipping through under the cover of refugee or migrant status. I say no thankyou.
This alone is good enough knowledge to make a decision with.

[Phil]

Deleted that post as it seems the info I got was incorrect.

[fazersharp]

The last person I would trust is a politician and I don’t believe its tru when people say they are contributing to our economy - because they spend as little as possible here, living 15 in 1 house and sending every penny they can home.
Here is what I have seen, a lorry in a back street being loaded polish reg cars there was about 3 of them. My wild assumptions are they are going back to Poland to avoid having to register here and the lorry is full of cheap continent fuel and so those cars are not even buying uk fuel to drive back with.   

[lew600fazer]

The thing is if we get out we will have to beef up the navy as we will be going back to the 12 mile offshore fishing limits again. That twat Ted Heath signed away the fishing limits to the EU as part of the deal to get us in. I reckon if we pull out the EU will go into meltdown. Not just because we are a big player in it but I think if truth be told the peoples of western Europe a fedup with crap that is coming out of Brussels

[Grayo]

We will be going back to the 12 mile offshore fishing limits again. That twat Ted Heath signed away the fishing limits to the EU as part of the deal to get us in.

And if we are out then we should no longer have the problem of huge factory ships raping our waters.




http://britishseafishing.co.uk/atlantic-...from-hell/

[Motopsycho87]

If we leave it'll start a chain reaction. Other countries will leave and the EU will go tits up in a year or two. Then perhaps it could be rebuilt as a trade agreement between European countries, and leave all these massive fees and free roaming visa behind. I'm with Nigel, OUT!

[dickturpin]

Interesting that another site I use is running a poll with similar results....

[Slaninar]

If we leave it'll start a chain reaction. Other countries will leave and the EU will go tits up in a year or two. Then perhaps it could be rebuilt as a trade agreement between European countries, and leave all these massive fees and free roaming visa behind. I'm with Nigel, OUT!

From what I know, once a country enters the EU, it can never go back. Not joking. Not sure if it requires constitution, or just some lows, agreements signed, but one of the tricks is you can no longer go back. A least the continental countries.

[Val]

That sums up the whole debate rather nicely  :rollin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBi-KXc0CRk

[nick crisp]

Out for me, at least until the Franco-German 'bloc' can learn to be a bit less bossy. Why do all these countries want to give up their individual identities? Is that they only way they can see of avoiding future wars? Here in the UK, we're all for devolving national government so that local needs are better catered for, and I think the same is even more pertinent on international scales. What do Brussels or Berlin know of what we need in Cumbria, or care for that matter? And all the scaremongers who say, "oh, we don't know what 'out' will look like"  :rolleyes  Like we'd be the only country in the world that values it's independence and survives perfectly well. Do people really think all contact, trade, diplomatic relations, common security concerns etc will completely cease between us and the Euro bloc if we leave? And yet all the other Euro countries are so desperate to keep us inside the EU? The US wants us to stay in, you say? What about losing our special relationship with them? Seems to me that's a one way deal anyway, they get what they want from us, we get feck-all from them - just dictated to.


No, I think it's time we learned to stand on our own feet again. We may not be so much 'Great' Britain anymore, but we have to learn to get along in the world on our own merits. Perhaps we'll be less blasé about our education system and industry etc if we actually need home grown talent to survive in the world.

[johnakay]

sign this if you agree that only British can vote and not to inc immigrants.





https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/109868

[BBROWN1664]

I heard an interesting thing on the news the other day. People eligible to vote in the British referendum include any IRISH living in the UK but not other non-British nationalities.

Why are any non-British nationals allowed to vote?

[fazersharp]

Holland and Mertle want to be king and queen of Europe and we are the court jester dancing the their tune, they need us more than we need them, any new trade deals that need to be done will be done and the sooner the better for them I would not be surprised if behind the scenes that the deals have already been done ready to star on June 24th 

[unfazed]

I heard an interesting thing on the news the other day. People eligible to vote in the British referendum include any IRISH living in the UK but not other non-British nationalities.

Why are any non-British nationals allowed to vote?

Both Irish and Commonwealth citizens over 18 who are U.K. residents, as well as UK nationals who have lived overseas for less than 15 years and Commonwealth citizens living in Gibraltar will be eligible to vote in the referendum.  :eek

As far as I know, it is because of the historical free movement between these countries and it will directly effect these people who live, work and pay UK tax. :thumbup

And to get our own back for 800 years of oppression :lol :lol :lol