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Collected my new beast today
#21
Having owned both bikes all be it my SX was a 2011 model sold it to a friend, my FZ1 was faster and out gunned the SX every time. the 2016 model is even slower sorry. The difference is the SX will out handle the FZ1 GEN2 I am talking and has a smoother power delivery.
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#22
A mate of mine has got a 2014 Z1000, handling wise, it's all about the pilot and when you start getting up to silly speeds my Ivanised gen 1 has got the legs on it. To the degree that I purposely let him take the lead so I can slipstream him and pop past him, flat on the tank, giving him the Barry Sheene two fingers  8)
It pisses him off that much when he thinks about how much money he's spent to get  owned by a twelve year old bike.
He's talking about getting one of those BMW 1000R's but worried my gen 1 will tramp all over that too.  Big Grin
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#23
(24-12-15, 10:18 PM)dazza link Wrote: He's talking about getting one of those BMW 1000R's but worried my gen 1 will tramp all over that too.  Big Grin


:rollin :rollin  Like it. Anytime though bud.  Smile


My real point for those who can't read between the lines was that he's proud as punch of his new bike & some can't resist a dig  Smile
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#24
I think it is more about the amount of money a z1000sx costs for not much improvement to a gen 1 or 2. Both bikes standard are similar and much the same when tuned, so it is more a personal thing regarding looks and being more modern. I think of the z1000sx as a newer version of the gen 1/2 rather than a better bike.
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#25
some people need a sense of humour transplant...............or do they remove it when you pick up the keys to a beemer Wink
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#26
All bikes are a matter of opinion.... I could have bought either the s1000r or the tuono v4. I opted for the tuono v4 because i think it looks better, it sounds better and in my opinion it has that Italian ride that has more soul than an in line four. Before i bought it i thought in line fours were the best configuration, but since buying a v4 i have changed my thoughts on what feels and drives best. The s1000r is still an amazing bike tho.. Smile
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#27
If the truth be known, it doesn't matter what you ride. It's all about how it makes you feel, what you can afford and what you get from it.
Performance figures and power stats are just numbers we like to have bragging rights over.
In the real world on real roads (apparently) there are limits that pretty much level most bikes and a good, experienced pilot or a complete lunatic will have the jump on a more powerful bike every time, unless it's a long straight road. Just my opinion.

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#28
Very true Dazza. The roads I ride out here in Spain, when I had SX it was fun. My FZ600 S2 was even better around the mountains. 1 ltr bikes struggled to hang on around the twisties My FZ1 was fun but the MT-09 is even better. I don't think there is much out there better for where I ride.
The SX is a cracking bike and the mk 2 is a big improvement on the mk1 I had. Suspension is much improved , the preload on the rear is so much easier to adjust, traction control etc!! and if you could call a bike sexy the SX certainly is all that. Good as the Fazers were the SX forced Yamaha to drop an aging design and re-think there product range, the SX killed the CBF Honda MK2 1000, what an over priced bike that was.
If some one wanted a decent valued sports touring bike, best value for money out there has to be the big Suzuki Bandit.
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#29
+1 on bikes only being able to go up to a certain speed on the uk roads. A bike is more about how much you enjoy the ride than how big the numbers are. I had a gsxr1000k6 a few years ago and it was a fantastic bike, but i felt frustrated on it because unless i was on a racetrack i couldn't get the best out of it. That was the reason for buying a semi naked bike. I enjoy the handling and the character of the engine more than the outright speed of it.
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#30
Well even though I've only done 30 odd miles so far and still not had the full throttle experience yet, so I cant fully compare it against the Gen1, but what I can say is it is a bit underpowered in its stock format against the full monty with 15 tooth front sprocket. However I do have plans to address this with a PC5, change the gearing, modify the air box & piper cross air filter and remapped ECU etc.

The SX handling is way better and has better technology with ABS, power modes, traction control and slipper clutch.

But if you're judging a bike on straight line 0-150 the Gen1 will have the edge, but even with a Nitron rear shock and racetech internals the stock SX will have the edge in the real world street riding as it feels more planted, more stable in the corners (even with new tyres)....so all in all I'm very happy to have this in my garage alongside the Gen1.

I will give another review once it's fully run in and modified accordingly
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#31
Never mind the neg comments BBB really we are all as jealous as foc, you just go on and enjoy it  Wink Big Grin Confusedun
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#32
next month a review of the SX
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#33
It is getting good reviews, will be interesting to hear what you think after a few decent trips out. :thumbup
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#34
What a great looking bike, well chuffed for you BBB.
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