Hi Viz. Do you believe It Helps?

[Frosties]

[quote author=Frosties link=topic=18941.msg219236#msg219236 date=1450436985]
Maddog, Sharpy - are we saying one of these is the best option then?


http://www.halfords.com/cycling/cycling-...ing-jacket

Mine is more like this Picture bellow- so just a small zip at the top and goes over your head - fits nice and tight and goes over the end of my leather sleeves and around my wrists so that it is still easy to get my gloves on. Also fits nice around my neck area. And is longer than my leather jacket and almost forms a seal below.
BUT mine is not water proof, but I dont do rain anyway, but if you get the right size and bearing in mind it is stretchy it could go over your waterproofs
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Not surprised it's feckin tight......it's made for a bird - just sayin like. Thanks for the idea but i'm not going to A&E as a cross dresser.  :lol

[Frosties]

Loving this scheme though. Can you make me one aswell Darrsi

[esetest]

It stops the poor sods in the sweat shops starving .

[lew600fazer]

On dark days be it morning or evening Hi Vis has to be worth it at least gives you a fitting chance be it on the roads or in court

[celticdog]

Yellow sunshine . . . sounds like an acid trip  , , , I'm going to have to post my own pic! You have been warned!" :b :rollin :rollin :rollin

[unfazed]

Anyone notice how hi vis looks with sunglasses especially poloraid one.

[darrsi]

Anyone notice how hi vis looks with sunglasses especially poloraid one.

Kind of defeating the object if truth be told?

[fireblake]

For the last couple of years I've had yellow lens protectors on my bike and I think these are amazing, whilst filtering I notice more cars move aside for me. I wear a Hi Viz jacket that I nicked from work, it covers my arms too. I never used to wear any Hi Viz until a work mate mentioned a story of some guy coming off his bike and laying in the road and was hit by a car that couldn't see him, his bike was some yards away. Think about it, dressed in Black in the dark and lying on a road. He might still have been hit by a car wearing Hi Viz but it might have given the driver a few vital yards to brake.

[Slaninar]

[quote author=Slaninar link=topic=18941.msg219206#msg219206 date=1450422849][size=1em]
Open road - yes. Definitely.
City riding - rarely.


And when it comes to SMIDSY, not sure it helps very much. Swerving before intersections is a lot more effective.
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I agree with you there, if I see a car poking out of a side street I'll move side to side within the lane as the human eye notices movement far more than colour.


As for wearing hi-vis, I never ride without it, for two main reasons. Firstly, the insurance issue as already stated earlier in the thread. Secondly, for my wife's peace of mind.
I personally don't give a fuck about what I look like, so don't care if I'm looked down on by other bikers for wearing it. If I have to wear a pink tutu and bunny ears to stop my wife shitting herself every time I get on the bike, that's what I'll wear.  :lol
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[size=1em]My motorcycle has some hi-vis tape put - white on the front, red on the back. I often wear hi-vis in the open road. My "winter" bicycle is taped in hi-vis tape. So nothing against hi-vis.[/size]

However, as far as effectiveness goes, out of town it's a lot more effective. In the city... it seems to help a lot less. IMO, the list is like this:

1. Lights - adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible.


2. Good lane positioning according to situation (to increase visibility) and weaving at intersections (what is a man when he stops drinking and driving?!   ).
3. Speed and braking - always assume you're still invisible. Always!
4. Hi - vis.
5. Crash pads and helmet, if all else fails.

I wrote a blog article on hi-vis decals limitations for bicycles. People often expect a bit too much of it.

[size=1em]http://www.bike.bikegremlin.com/2015/09/...le-lights/[/size]

[noggythenog]

My thoughts are that if you are commuting every day in heavy traffic and in the winter then it is worthwhile..........but the average summer weekend rider doesnt need it.........and right or wrong we are all into aesthetics arent we & high viz looks shit...........if we didnt care then we'd have all of our bikes covered in high viz instead of the lovely paint jobs they have.

[fazersharp]

if we didnt care then we'd have all of our bikes covered in high viz instead of the lovely paint jobs they have.

I would quite like a white fzs 600

[noggythenog]

Do it fazersharp....there was a guy on here from norway had a white one it looked nice......imagine how he must have blended in.......would have had to wear black clothes so folk could see him :lol

[fazersharp]

I think a white bike will just have to wait and be my next bike

[darrsi]

[quote author=mr self destruct link=topic=18941.msg219246#msg219246 date=1450443215][quote author=Slaninar link=topic=18941.msg219206#msg219206 date=1450422849][size=1em]
Open road - yes. Definitely.
City riding - rarely.


And when it comes to SMIDSY, not sure it helps very much. Swerving before intersections is a lot more effective.
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I agree with you there, if I see a car poking out of a side street I'll move side to side within the lane as the human eye notices movement far more than colour.


As for wearing hi-vis, I never ride without it, for two main reasons. Firstly, the insurance issue as already stated earlier in the thread. Secondly, for my wife's peace of mind.
I personally don't give a fuck about what I look like, so don't care if I'm looked down on by other bikers for wearing it. If I have to wear a pink tutu and bunny ears to stop my wife shitting herself every time I get on the bike, that's what I'll wear.  :lol
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[size=1em]My motorcycle has some hi-vis tape put - white on the front, red on the back. I often wear hi-vis in the open road. My "winter" bicycle is taped in hi-vis tape. So nothing against hi-vis.[/size]

However, as far as effectiveness goes, out of town it's a lot more effective. In the city... it seems to help a lot less. IMO, the list is like this:

1. Lights - adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible.


2. Good lane positioning according to situation (to increase visibility) and weaving at intersections (what is a man when he stops drinking and driving?!   ).
3. Speed and braking - always assume you're still invisible. Always!
4. Hi - vis.
5. Crash pads and helmet, if all else fails.

I wrote a blog article on hi-vis decals limitations for bicycles. People often expect a bit too much of it.

[size=1em]http://www.bike.bikegremlin.com/2015/09/...le-lights/[/size]
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"...adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible..."


Just in case you stumble upon any grizzly bears whilst out riding.  :lol

[darrsi]

I think a white bike will just have to wait and be my next bike

My last bike was white, and soooo much easier to keep clean than my black Fazer.
Although it's obviously faster in black, i don't think i would ever buy a bike in that colour again.
One quick shower of rain and it looks dirty all over again, even after just cleaning it.  :groan

[Slaninar]

"...adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible..."


Just in case you stumble upon any grizzly bears whilst out riding.  :lol

It seems to work better than just centre headlights. For cars pulling in at intersections at least.

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=18941.msg219354#msg219354 date=1450527830]
"...adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible..."


Just in case you stumble upon any grizzly bears whilst out riding.  :lol

It seems to work better than just centre headlights. For cars pulling in at intersections at least.
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A biker passes me on the way to work every morning and he has sidelights, and admittedly you can spot him a mile away.

[fazersharp]

My last bike was white, and soooo much easier to keep clean than my black Fazer.
Although it's obviously faster in black,

White is just black without any black in it

[Frosties]

For the last couple of years I've had yellow lens protectors on my bike and I think these are amazing, whilst filtering I notice more cars move aside for me. I wear a Hi Viz jacket that I nicked from work, it covers my arms too. I never used to wear any Hi Viz until a work mate mentioned a story of some guy coming off his bike and laying in the road and was hit by a car that couldn't see him, his bike was some yards away. Think about it, dressed in Black in the dark and lying on a road. He might still have been hit by a car wearing Hi Viz but it might have given the driver a few vital yards to brake.

That's just reminded me of a bloke a few months back with these fitted - saw the bugger coming a mile off filtering down the M4. Damm good shout - i'm off hunting  :thumbup  HANG ON - IS YELLOW LEGAL?

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=18941.msg219354#msg219354 date=1450527830]
"...adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible..."


Just in case you stumble upon any grizzly bears whilst out riding.  :lol

It seems to work better than just centre headlights. For cars pulling in at intersections at least.
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With you on this also Slaninar - all the wiring is done and the Cree LED spots bought, just got to mount them.

[slappy]

Fitted mine a few months back,, noticed more cars seem to move out of my way now