Advice from the foc-u guitar fiends

[Exupnut]

Live at the Regal.....agreed ....prob one of the top ten blues albums of all time...I would include Clapton Unplugged and Born Under A Bad Sign by Albert King aswell.

[nick crisp]

Go on then, top 10 blues albums. Mine would have to include:


B.B. King - Live at the Regal
John Mayall's Bluesbreakers - with Eric Clapton, 1966
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Couldn't Stand the Weather
Buddy Guy - Damn Right I've Got The Blues
Alvin Youngblood Hart - Big Mama's Door (for acoustic blues)
If I had to include Albert King (not a favourite of mine), it'd be Live Wire/Blues Power; Live at the Fillmore.
Probably Muddy Waters with Johnny Winter, rerecording of the Mud's best known tunes.
Possibly The Fabulous Thunderbirds 1st album.




Hmmm, can't come up with any others right now, and this list wouldn't be everyone's definitive one, but includes some of my favourites that are up there for me.

[noggythenog]

I only just noticed exups retaliatory strike strap line.......ya bastad :lol


At least my 2 cylinders got out on the road this year[size=0.7em].......no point havin a big member if you dont use it[/size] :b




P.s...i know of tab nick...ive used it before with the bass.


My missus is classically trained....but shes shit at explaining things in noggy terms.......shes got 5k worth of euphonium up the attic.......what guitar could i get trading that in :evil

[nick crisp]

I only just noticed exups retaliatory strike strap line.......ya bastad :lol


At least my 2 cylinders got out on the road this year[size=0.7em].......no point havin a big member if you dont use it[/size] :b




P.s...i know of tab nick...ive used it before with the bass.


My missus is classically trained....but shes shit at explaining things in noggy terms.......shes got 5k worth of euphonium up the attic.......what guitar could i get trading that in :evil

So, lost two cylinders but gained two strings...I don't know if that leaves you better or worse off  :lol

[Exupnut]

I only just noticed exups retaliatory strike strap line.......ya bastad :lol


At least my 2 cylinders got out on the road this year[size=0.7em].......no point havin a big member if you dont use it[/size] :b

Lol I spose....but I still racked 60k miles last year on the work bike......the signature was changed about 6 weeks ago mate....when I saw your windup lol....surprised u never saw it sooner.

GET UR GUITAR SET UP WITH LOW ACTION FRASER.....it will make it so much easier for you to learn.

[bri h]

I'm a big fan of mississipi john hurts style. Just saying 

[nick crisp]

I'm a big fan of mississipi john hurts style. Just saying 

Do you know, I've been listening to blues for donkey's years now and I still haven't got around to any of his stuff  :rolleyes  I expect I've probably heard one or two covers though.


One of the things I like about Alvin Youngblood Hart is that he covers a lot of the old bluesmen (Leadbelly, Charlie Patton etc) very closely to how they originally played,  but he is also a brilliant vocalist, guitar player and song writer.

[bri h]

Check out pallet on the floor on you tube Nick it's .my favourite at the moment.

[Exupnut]

Great tune bri.......

http://youtu.be/qC18_XEAe2o

[Exupnut]

We gotta have a foc-u guitar meet sometime....

[nick crisp]

Great tune bri.......

http://youtu.be/qC18_XEAe2o

Thought so. Stefan Grossman covered that one. I would guess one of John Fahey's influences too.


Like the harsher sound of the south myself:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5qysb5G5L0

[noggythenog]

Can i have some feedback on this catfish keith fella please maestros?




http://youtu.be/Fv6Y5MwuwRU


This is superb 8)



His name sticks in my bonce...think he played my hometown when i was a kid...seem to remember my old man on about him......what genre is he then and what style/technique etc


I dont propose to ever be as good as these guys as if that was gonna happen i would already have been playing 20 years......but i think what Mick said earlier about hindsight and learning the style for me and not wasting progress time..............see this guy though catfish.....he is basically providing all of the music with just his guitar....theres no imaging the drums or bass or whatever in between...he is everything.....thats kinda what im after i suppose if it makes sense.


Im guessing at my early stage the same advice for learning the basic chords applies

[noggythenog]

And seasick steve


http://youtu.be/C3Iam7JELDM




These guys really float my boat of the kind of shit id aspire to playing badly, just not entirely sure what they are described as.......any other simillar recomendations???

[nick crisp]

Dark Was The Night - an old gospel tune from Blind Willie Johnson, as mentioned on the comments with that vid. Ry Cooder did a great cover of that one on the soundtrack to the movie "Paris, Texas." (Harry Dean Stanton).


Seasick is another one heavily influenced by that Mississipi delta sound (hence delta blues). Son House is another one from that mould, and picked up by people like Muddy Waters who took it to Chicago, added a full band and gave it that city sophistication that birthed the genre Chicago blues.

see this guy though catfish.....he is basically providing all of the music with just his guitar....theres no imaging the drums or bass or whatever in between...he is everything.....thats kinda what im after i suppose if it makes sense.

You need to learn to fingerpick then. That's why I play more acoustic than electric; got focced off with all the aggro of trying to put a band together, and just play by myself now, so exactly what you said...bass line, rhythm and melody all on one guitar. Stevie Ray Vaughan came closest to that on the electric for me, and I still play it, but not as much now. Slide guitar on the electric cranked up to 11 still does it though  :evil

[Exupnut]

Learn seasick nog.....get ur self a one string diddlybow and you'll only have one string to learn lol gotta be 5 sixths easier lol

[noggythenog]

Dark Was The Night - an old gospel tune from Blind Willie Johnson, as mentioned on the comments with that vid. Ry Cooder did a great cover of that one on the soundtrack to the movie "Paris, Texas." (Harry Dean Stanton).


Seasick is another one heavily influenced by that Mississipi delta sound (hence delta blues). Son House is another one from that mould, and picked up by people like Muddy Waters who took it to Chicago, added a full band and gave it that city sophistication that birthed the genre Chicago blues.


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see this guy though catfish.....he is basically providing all of the music with just his guitar....theres no imaging the drums or bass or whatever in between...he is everything.....thats kinda what im after i suppose if it makes sense.

You need to learn to fingerpick then. That's why I play more acoustic than electric; got focced off with all the aggro of trying to put a band together, and just play by myself now, so exactly what you said...bass line, rhythm and melody all on one guitar. Stevie Ray Vaughan came closest to that on the electric for me, and I still play it, but not as much now. Slide guitar on the electric cranked up to 11 still does it though  :evil
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Cheers Nick.......finger picking eh...foccin ell.....i hope the fingers are up to it......i learned to touch type once.....not that fast any more but something ill never forget and requires a bit of dexterity.....you get in a rhythym and the speed goes up.




Just going back to something....finger picking or not........i still have to learn all the chords dont i.....and then scales............so at my stage i take it there isnt any different advice about how i go about things really.....Mick maybe you could give some basic advice ie things to practice now as im learning the chords since you said you are into this style?

[noggythenog]

Learn seasick nog.....get ur self a one string diddlybow and you'll only have one string to learn lol gotta be 5 sixths easier lol

Thinking o getting some more cd's & an air guitar.....any old fool can get sore fingers eh & want to go straight from amateur to pro without unnecessary graft.....maybe an app for my phone where a virtual me does all the learning & take the praise.....waddyareckon?

[Exupnut]

Good idea mate.......I agree .....foc working fer it......ill chop me hands of and send em up to ya

[noggythenog]

The lottery

I could write a blues song about that:-


Woke up this mornin..1....2.....3....4.....said to my wife........if i won the lottery would you go halves babbyyyyy......... & leave me.....1....2.....3.....4...5....6....7.....8.......


My baby said.....1....2......hellllllll yeh!!!................i said here's a fiver fiver fiver fiver.........fuck off then

[bri h]

Noggy it does help to understand a bit of music theory so here goes.chords are simply two or more notes out of a scale. usualy the first or root and third and fith (im sure ill be corrected if im wrong ).There are 8 notes in a scale doh ray me etc. but in blues its usualy 5 which is why its a bit easier to start.like i said its only practice and god given talent that will make you a good guitarist but knowing the c major chord starts with the root of the c scale will help later. i hope. dont beat yourself up if you cant play as you want to after a week it will come in time. My time is yet to come and ive been trying for years :lol