12-10-15, 10:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-10-15, 10:29 AM by sadlonelygit.)
got a nice green letter through the mail at the weekend alledging 37 in a 30.
thing is i was driving a vehicle with an analogue tacho which for the time in question shows i didn't exceed 50kmh for @5 mins (the time it takes to go through the village).
do i take the offer of a speed awareness course or do i fight it?
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money!
I'd verify the tachograph is accurate before challenging the ticket.
tacho is recently calibrated and showing correct time, so pretty accurate. the trace goes nowhere near 60kmh after showing a stop for traffic lights.
problem is as we all know, it's a money making racket and they expect us to roll over.
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money!
Are there case's where the offence was successfully challenged by using a taco as evidence
Complete fabrication, I didn't make it up!
Two minor things.
Are you sure you are looking at the right time? Tachos normally use GMT I think.
Also, they may have the time wrong and this is considered a minor issue so does not get you out of the offence.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
A successful challenge was reported recently, I think on Visor Down. Dude had an insurance company's black box inn the boot and it showed under 30 in contradiction to a ticket for 40+. When it came to court the prosecution didn't contest the defences evidence. I'd speak to a specialist lawyer.
Andy
(12-10-15, 11:14 AM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: Two minor things.
Are you sure you are looking at the right time? Tachos normally use GMT I think.
Also, they may have the time wrong and this is considered a minor issue so does not get you out of the offence.
digi tachos use UTC, analogue have a self contained 24hr clock.
tacho shows 75-80kmh down to 0 (traffic lights + 30 limit), then sub 50kmh for @5 mins (3km on the trace) then back up to 80kmh
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money!
Ask for the photo evidence?
(12-10-15, 02:32 PM)alan sherman link Wrote: Ask for the photo evidence? Yep, get all the evidence together first, then work it out to see if your right.
You might just have a case here!
Stop polishing it and ride the bloody thing!!
![[Image: 850481.png]](http://badges.fuelly.com/images/sig-uk/850481.png)
don't ask for evidence.
Ask for the photo so you can identify the driver. Mention evidence and they wont send it.
That said, as you were in a truck, asking for the photo to help identify the driver will drop your company in the crap as they are meant to maintain records of who is driving so unless you were one of two drivers on that truck around that time.........
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
The tacho printout will have the drivers name on it anyway.
Stop polishing it and ride the bloody thing!!
I would suggest that you take it to court and present your tacho evidence there.
Better still, tell them you want to go to court but also contact the officer dealing with it and suggest to him that he may want to avoid looking silly in court by looking at your evidence to prove your innocence.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
I would ask for the photo .
been told this pm that the tacho can only be used as corroberating evidence only, so that's that neatly tied up in a giant fuck you.
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money!
12-10-15, 08:25 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-10-15, 07:10 PM by celticdog.)
Funny you should mention this as I've just attended a speed awareness course this afternoon. :\ That's 4 hours and 85 quid of my life I'll never get back. However, I'd be lying if I said I didn't get anything out of it, other than avoiding the 3 penalty points. I'm on the database for 3 years now.
I was doing 34 in 30 zone, as far as the law's concerned it's a legitimate ticket issue, if there's any doubt of exceeding 30mph even for a fraction of a second, they have you bang to rights, they don't need to prove guilt, you need to prove innocence.
Get legal advice from a speeding specialist.
You have my sympathies SLG, good luck with this should you wish to fight it.
http://www.which.co.uk/cars/driving/driv...ng-ticket/
Treat everything in life the way a dog would- if you can't eat it or foc it, forget it.
Or just don't speed through 30's. : 
Stop polishing it and ride the bloody thing!!
(12-10-15, 08:30 PM)stevierst link Wrote: Or just don't speed through 30's. :
Fair point Stevie, guilty as charged, I'm more than happy to get away with only a 4 hour lecture!
Treat everything in life the way a dog would- if you can't eat it or foc it, forget it.
I can't say nowt, been caught myself, and my son has so far done 15 points for speeding in 30's the little tw@!
Stop polishing it and ride the bloody thing!!
I think if you've been riding 20+ yrs and had a clean licence prior to this point then you owe them a few............... If you know what I mean
Complete fabrication, I didn't make it up!
(12-10-15, 04:55 PM)stevierst link Wrote: The tacho printout will have the drivers name on it anyway. C'mon stevierst, pay attention at the back
Analogue tachograph means you have to enter your details (or anyone else's for that matter, as that's what you had to do to 'cheat' the system)
Digital tachograph means it takes info from your digital driving card.
For those who are interested, generally after 2006 (and yes I know there's specific dates but I'm not going into that, keeping it simples) any commercial vehicle would need to have a digital tachograph fitted.
Colin
----------------------
Ride fast, ride a red bike :-)
|
