That's it... I give up!

[fazersharp]

I read somewhere --- or dreamt it or am making it up, but because the yellow high viz is so common it gets "dialed out by the brain" as normal in the environment , but if you have a pink high vis the brain reconciles that as different and so registers it and gets seen better

[Grahamm]

I read somewhere --- or dreamt it or am making it up, but because the yellow high viz is so common it gets "dialed out by the brain" as normal in the environment , but if you have a pink high vis the brain reconciles that as different and so registers it and gets seen better

A couple of years ago I was riding whilst on holiday in Devon and a guy was wearing green hi-viz jacket and trousers whilst pruning a hedge on the side of the road.

It wasn't until he moved that I actually saw him because it was acting as camo!

[maddog04]

think that's more urban myth due to the amount of hi viz about, but ask yourself this.........did you spot the roadies laying tarmac on a busy road or the cop with speed gun.......I bet the answer is yes because you saw the hi viz first.........just my two penny worth

advanced riders/drivers use the Police Roadcraft book and the system is called IPSGA
Information, position, speed, gear, acceleration

the info bit runs through each stage and this is the bit most riders/drivers aren't upto scratch with......you constantly take in and give out info (TUG>take use give) and once you switch onto this then you're riding skills will become better......in the advanced world, the word SUDDENLY doesn't exist

.......the car suddenly appeared.......TUG that car and you'll alter position accordingly long before you need to maybe slam on

get on Bike safe/IAM skills for life/RoSPA courses.......you won't look back

[maddog04]

green cammo and a hedge :'(


google "Looming" and "motion camouflage" to understand why we have Smidsy's

[bigralphie]

Hi viz has its place failing light extra , but I will never be convinced it has any real benefit in daylight after being covered in the stuff while instructing and still having vehicles pull into my path  :o 
At worse some riders substitute it for good obs and position  :rolleyes

[darrsi]

think that's more urban myth due to the amount of hi viz about, but ask yourself this.........did you spot the roadies laying tarmac on a busy road or the cop with speed gun.......I bet the answer is yes because you saw the hi viz first.........just my two penny worth

advanced riders/drivers use the Police Roadcraft book and the system is called IPSGA
Information, position, speed, gear, acceleration

the info bit runs through each stage and this is the bit most riders/drivers aren't upto scratch with......you constantly take in and give out info (TUG>take use give) and once you switch onto this then you're riding skills will become better......in the advanced world, the word SUDDENLY doesn't exist

.......the car suddenly appeared.......TUG that car and you'll alter position accordingly long before you need to maybe slam on

get on Bike safe/IAM skills for life/RoSPA courses.......you won't look back

Missed the cops with the speed gun.....TWICE.....in the same place.  :'(

[HarryHornby]

Hi Vis isn't always great, depends on the surroundings.....

[Grahamm]

Hi Vis isn't always great, depends on the surroundings.....

Yep, that's pretty much the sort of situation I described above!

[darrsi]

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Hi Vis isn't always great, depends on the surroundings.....

Yep, that's pretty much the sort of situation I described above!
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Hence the reason pink is actually a colour that would generally show up well, unless you're anywhere near Katie Price's motors!

[Millietant]

Don't give up, unless you are certain you'll have no regrets.

Liz and I both kept our bikes when the kids came along and were growing up.

As soon as they were able, we took them with us on rides (even two-week continental tours) and we got then off-road bikes.

When our youngest was 10 he did his first Nurburgring laps as my pillion - a lot of people said I was crazy (usually after we'd flown past them), but you can't wrap either yourself, or your kids in cotton wool and stop living.

Do I have regrets - not many - we managed to keep doing what we enjoyed and then found our kids enjoyed doing the same things.

My only advice would be to always and continuously, assess the risks and act accordingly. The benefit of what we did is that we now have kids (20yrs & 25yrs old) who love spending time with us and who ride/drive with us ( and not like lunatics). On bikes they know that the track is the only place to speed, and that the road is a place to be alert and wary.

Hopefully nothing bad ever happens to them (or us) - but they're the risks we take to "live", rather than just "survive".

Cool kids eh -  (Oh bugger, first two pics are massive scale,  don't know why !!)

[slimwilly]

Millietant that's a great advert for biking,family biking, you do have to ride your luck in this world.

And you took them around the Nurberg ring,,wow,,what a boast at school.

[Millietant]

Yep - gotta live ! Youngest absolutely loved the 'Ring but always wanted to go faster, even though we ran under 9 minute laps. Now he just wants to take his Fazer to the 'Ring. - hopefully this summer 


Life is full of risks - we've had plenty of shit happen in our lives, but loads of good stuff and all of the good came from taking some form of chance - but we always took as many precautions as we could for safety's sake.

[darrsi]

My brother passed his test actually on his 17th birthday and he had already HP'd a Honda CBX1000 himself as he'd been working a couple of years, so it was sitting at home for him when he returned.
He used to take me out on the back, and i was only 10 years old, and i couldn't get enough of it.
He then exchanged that for a Kawasaki Z1300 when he was 18 years old.
He raced them both over a quarter of a mile at Santa Pod as well.
Makes me shudder a little bit now bearing in mind they were both extreme lumps of a bike and he was still a kid himself, but it was different times back then, and way less traffic to worry about.
Happy days. 

[slimwilly]

Yep - gotta live ! Youngest absolutely loved the 'Ring but always wanted to go faster, even though we ran under 9 minute laps. Now he just wants to take his Fazer to the 'Ring. - hopefully this summer 


Life is full of risks - we've had plenty of shit happen in our lives, but loads of good stuff and all of the good came from taking some form of chance - but we always took as many precautions as we could for safety's sake.

9 minutes,,hell, I was about 12 /13 minutes,,being careful,,we are going again in four weeks,so will be studying my video of my first lap.

Anyway,,you bikers,,man up,get out and at um,,

[Arfa]

Life is full of risks - we've had plenty of shit happen in our lives, but loads of good stuff and all of the good came from taking some form of chance - but we always took as many precautions as we could for safety's sake.

Exactly!







"Nothing ventured, nothing gained."

[darrsi]

"Bonnet de douche...."  :lol

[Millietant]

[quote author=Millietant link=topic=16700.msg192674#msg192674 date=1429822461]
Yep - gotta live ! Youngest absolutely loved the 'Ring but always wanted to go faster, even though we ran under 9 minute laps. Now he just wants to take his Fazer to the 'Ring. - hopefully this summer 


Life is full of risks - we've had plenty of shit happen in our lives, but loads of good stuff and all of the good came from taking some form of chance - but we always took as many precautions as we could for safety's sake.

9 minutes,,hell, I was about 12 /13 minutes,,being careful,,we are going again in four weeks,so will be studying my video of my first lap.

Anyway,,you bikers,,man up,get out and at um,,
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If I could figure out how to get it uploaded, I've got a "no knees out, no braking" lap at 8.50 (had to make 5 quick dabs though) - that's a great exercise in riding safe and fast.

[Skippernick]

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fazersharp....you're a genius....................a machine gun disguised as an exhaust :evil


if you're after a loud horn....I got one of these for the bandit......its a big old fella and you may have to root around to fit it but my mechanic got it tucked in just inside the nose fairing near the left fork

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stebel-Nautilu...43db21c227


ref the hi viz... I wear a builders waistcoat but I think the long sleeved ones offer better visibility as the "body" can be "lost" behind the screen whereas the sleeves tend to be noticeable due to your arms sticking out a bit more

having said all this.....I've had dozy cnuts pull out on roundabouts in front of our fire engine en route to a job.....two tones going/blues on/white flashing headlamps on.........sometimes you just gotta admit that no matter what you do.......there's always some clown who won't see you :'(

with others on this.....take a break, don't sell her yet

That's exactly the same air horn I have, fitted under the left fairing infill, with a bit of jiggery pokery.
Worth every penny.  :thumbup
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Darrsi


when the time comes will you tell me how to wire this up.


Cheers Nick
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Is that relay already in the system or do i need to buy one?

[darrsi]

Mine came with the kit I think.
Was a long time ago.

[Skippernick]

This one comes with an inline fuse not sure what rating yet.