What did you do with whatever else you've got?

[ChristoT]

[quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=11414.msg175798#msg175798 date=1417465800]

I'm a little concerned that every time I think about this project I keep feeling like I've forgotten something :\

That you left Christo lying in the mud the cold under the car after reattaching your aircon pump? :rollin
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I don't think that would worry him.... :lol

[Dead Eye]

Hahaha, got it in one

I'm fairly sure everything is looking positive so far. Managed to double confirm that the new Gearbox definitely has an LSD on it - Torsen Type B which is exactly what I was after Looking forward to seeing how well it affects the handling as the car was pretty good before hand.

[Mark YPVS]

Took the DT50MX round the block as im going to use it as my winter bike , its not quite as quick as the R1  :eek :lol :rollin


Mark

[unfazed]

Hahaha, got it in one

I'm fairly sure everything is looking positive so far. Managed to double confirm that the new Gearbox definitely has an LSD on it - Torsen Type B which is exactly what I was after Looking forward to seeing how well it affects the handling as the car was pretty good before hand.

What kind of horsepower does you MG have?

Drive with caution until you get used to it, especially on braking and acceleration through tight bends and speeding through roundabouts,  :eek you will have to modify your driving style a little, but the reduction in torque steer will be a great help. Have fun, don't forget to let us know how you get on.

[unfazed]

Took the DT50MX round the block as im going to use it as my winter bike , its not quite as quick as the R1  :eek :lol :rollin


Mark

Seriously  :eek I thought you wouldn't notice the difference  :lol

[ChristoT]

[quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=11414.msg175918#msg175918 date=1417531981]
Hahaha, got it in one

I'm fairly sure everything is looking positive so far. Managed to double confirm that the new Gearbox definitely has an LSD on it - Torsen Type B which is exactly what I was after Looking forward to seeing how well it affects the handling as the car was pretty good before hand.

What kind of horsepower does you MG have?

Drive with caution until you get used to it, especially on braking and acceleration through tight bends and speeding through roundabouts,  :eek you will have to modify your driving style a little, but the reduction in torque steer will be a great help. Have fun, don't forget to let us know how you get on.
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How appropriate.

A quick Wikipedia search tells us the first LSD was made by ZF!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited-slip_differential

[Dead Eye]

[quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=11414.msg175918#msg175918 date=1417531981]
Hahaha, got it in one

I'm fairly sure everything is looking positive so far. Managed to double confirm that the new Gearbox definitely has an LSD on it - Torsen Type B which is exactly what I was after Looking forward to seeing how well it affects the handling as the car was pretty good before hand.

What kind of horsepower does you MG have?

Drive with caution until you get used to it, especially on braking and acceleration through tight bends and speeding through roundabouts,  :eek you will have to modify your driving style a little, but the reduction in torque steer will be a great help. Have fun, don't forget to let us know how you get on.
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It's the 2.5 litre V6 (MG ZS 180) but outputs circa 174hp according to the likes of Parkers ( http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/fa...001/21449/ )

People have mentioned about how much difference an LSD makes but I really don't know what to expect... I would have thought it would make the car easier to control...

The torque steer on it before hand was a bit of a nightmare Especially if you just planted your foot to the floor  :evil :evil :lol

[Anquetil]

A ride to the Spiders Web cafe at Albrighton on the XJ600 to meet up with some old friends from cycle racing in the '60's and '70's. Bright and sunny but pretty cold, frosty when I left home. 88 miles total.

[stevierst]

Completed my riding assessment today, the last step to becoming a north west blood biker!

[Nebuchernezzer]

Been respraying parts of the girlfriends car, all the paint was peeling off the plastic parts, spoiler, fuel cap, guard vent things.
Resprayed them in the back yard, refitted the bits last night.
Pretty pleased with how it came up.
Shoddy photos though haha.
Next is the finish the wheels, i painted one black and put a red rim protector on it, looks good so got to do the other 3 now.

[Dead Eye]

Nice work

Spraying is something I would like to get in to a little more, but I just don't have the space at the moment

[JoeRock]

[quote author=nick crisp link=topic=11414.msg175301#msg175301 date=1417125636]
[quote author=noggythenog link=topic=11414.msg175299#msg175299 date=1417125378]
im a little fed up of my teeth being rattled out on less than perfect surfaces.

It's a shame your view of the FZ1 has been coloured this way. I reckon there must be something seriously wrong with the suspension still, and wonder how you'd find a stock one if you tried one? You are the first person I have heard criticise them so harshly.
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Yeh it has been pissed about with so much for track riding that it isnt enjoyable on small roads.


Ive maxed out the compression on the front shocks yet theres still too much travel left even with my fat carcass on it....they've been uprated too much & sometimes the rear is jarring.....but on the A44 which is quite smooth, big corners it is quite nice.


Speed is excellent, noise, looks, bling factor are all good but the overall riding experience just isnt there......i feel like im really trying to ride around its haarshness and that ill probably be far better & quicker on any smaller but normally specced up bike.....i've done over 6k miles on it now & im still not happy.


Slim is the man to try it out...much lighter than me and well used to his FZ1 now.
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Noggy I must have read that wrong - you've maxed out the compression damping? That's got nothing to do with the amount of fork travel you're using, but if you've maxed it out it'll be bloody stiff over bumps! Sounds like the forks have had some pretty stiff springs fitted? You can get new springs front and rear for about £150 odd to your weight and riding style, would that not be worth a go if you like the rest of the bike?!

[noggythenog]

Cheers Joe, are you sure mate?


Im pretty sure when i was adjusting it that i read that you adjust the compression and go out for a spin and then keep doing that over bumps and heavy braking etc until the cable tie is down to about 10mm from bottoming out.


Whatever way i was going it was going down more and more until i couldnt adjust it any further and it has probably about an inch and a half of travel still left that i just cant use as i couldnt adjust it any further.


If you've got more info though ill take it


Ta


Nog

[Dead Eye]

A stab in the dark here, but maybe the compression damping is designed for fine control but your springs are just completely out for your bike / weight?

[unfazed]

Cheers Joe, are you sure mate?

Im pretty sure when i was adjusting it that i read that you adjust the compression and go out for a spin and then keep doing that over bumps and heavy braking etc until the cable tie is down to about 10mm from bottoming out.

Whatever way i was going it was going down more and more until i couldnt adjust it any further and it has probably about an inch and a half of travel still left that i just cant use as i couldnt adjust it any further.

If you've got more info though ill take it

Ta

Nog

Not very good advice there Nog, everybody has a different style and suspension should be tuned to individuals style as well as weight.
A good example is Lorenzo and Rossi, their setting are completely different yet both are exceptionally fast riders.
My sons and I are reasonably quick riders and anytime we have ridden together we have all kept pace, if we swap bikes we struggle to reach the same pace, because we have  very different suspension settings.

Much talk on suspension adjustments are track related and they do not transfer well to dodgy country roads.
You need to comprise between handling and comfort.
As a start point.
Set the static sag on the forks to 30mm,  turn the Rebound and compression adjusters to the standard settings
Set the static sag on the rear to 20mm and the rebound and compression adjusters to their standard settings.

Take it for a spin and see how it feels

[unfazed]

[quote author=unfazed link=topic=11414.msg176012#msg176012 date=1417555733]
[quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=11414.msg175918#msg175918 date=1417531981]
Hahaha, got it in one

I'm fairly sure everything is looking positive so far. Managed to double confirm that the new Gearbox definitely has an LSD on it - Torsen Type B which is exactly what I was after Looking forward to seeing how well it affects the handling as the car was pretty good before hand.

What kind of horsepower does you MG have?

Drive with caution until you get used to it, especially on braking and acceleration through tight bends and speeding through roundabouts,  :eek you will have to modify your driving style a little, but the reduction in torque steer will be a great help. Have fun, don't forget to let us know how you get on.
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It's the 2.5 litre V6 (MG ZS 180) but outputs circa 174hp according to the likes of Parkers ( http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/fa...001/21449/ )

People have mentioned about how much difference an LSD makes but I really don't know what to expect... I would have thought it would make the car easier to control...

The torque steer on it before hand was a bit of a nightmare Especially if you just planted your foot to the floor  :evil :evil :lol
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You may find you will be over correcting the steering until you get used t the LSD, mainly because of the lack of torque steer. The power should be transmitted cleaner to the wheels and can catch you by surprise powering through bends :eek Without the LSD when one wheel spins it kills the power transmission a little. You may get some understeer on wet roads as both wheels spin, break traction and the car wants to go straight on. Just be wary, but it will definitely be better overall 

[noggythenog]

[quote author=noggythenog link=topic=11414.msg176362#msg176362 date=1417796138]
Cheers Joe, are you sure mate?

Im pretty sure when i was adjusting it that i read that you adjust the compression and go out for a spin and then keep doing that over bumps and heavy braking etc until the cable tie is down to about 10mm from bottoming out.

Whatever way i was going it was going down more and more until i couldnt adjust it any further and it has probably about an inch and a half of travel still left that i just cant use as i couldnt adjust it any further.

If you've got more info though ill take it

Ta

Nog

Not very good advice there Nog, everybody has a different style and suspension should be tuned to individuals style as well as weight.
A good example is Lorenzo and Rossi, their setting are completely different yet both are exceptionally fast riders.
My sons and I are reasonably quick riders and anytime we have ridden together we have all kept pace, if we swap bikes we struggle to reach the same pace, because we have  very different suspension settings.

Much talk on suspension adjustments are track related and they do not transfer well to dodgy country roads.
You need to comprise between handling and comfort.
As a start point.
Set the static sag on the forks to 30mm,  turn the Rebound and compression adjusters to the standard settings
Set the static sag on the rear to 20mm and the rebound and compression adjusters to their standard settings.

Take it for a spin and see how it feels
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Yeh i did all that guys and had the missus out with a ruler measuring the rider sag and then once id got that sorted i got the settings off of Nitron and i zero'd the rear shock, i got the front rebound adjusted back and forward until i had sorted out as much of the juddering on the front as i could and then i went onto the front compression.......but no matter what i do there is still far too much of the front shock that im not using.


The softer i got it then the much better it felt but i cant do anything  else with it now without throwing more money at it.


It is set up to be a track bike and the previous owner i think must have had it just for that purpose.


Trading in is the way forward for sure. I can always buy another in future but this one is killing me.


Gimme the MT07.....non adjustable front.......otherwise known as no foccing about ........ok maybe stick on a better shock but one that i get the chance to spec for the type of riding that i do instead of picking up from someone elses settings.

[unfazed]

What sag does it have?

If you can get 25 to 35 mm sag, you may just need to change the fork oil to the standard oil. It is likely that the previous owner has put in a thicker oil to increase the damping levels.

[noggythenog]

What sag does it have?

If you can get 25 to 35 mm sag, you may just need to change the fork oil to the standard oil. It is likely that the previous owner has put in a thicker oil to increase the damping levels.

Im pretty sure it is 25mm.....actually i think that was on your recomendation before.


He was a bit vague in his descriptions but he did mention that it "might" have uprated  Ohlins springs in the front so it makes sense....at the time i knew even less than i do now and ive learned a little from the process.

[unfazed]

Noggy, have you ever checked the Laden sag (sag with you sitting on it)?

25mm static sag is a start point and go up or down according to personal preference.

Check the laden sag and post the result