The Jock vote

[Phil]

Thing is, NO needs 60% plus to bury YES for a while.

YES needs 51% to bury NO for good.   

That's the worry, a narrow margin for either side will leave a lot of people pissed off. Hopefully the winning side will get more than the other + non voters total.

If Scotland do vote yes, I say good luck to them. I think unless you have lived in Scotland its hard to appreciate exactly what its like.

The one thing I really don't get is why the YES party want to keep the £. Scotland is voting for an independent country and countries have their own currencies, unless they vote to join the EU and use the €. Or they just use a currency as their own but cant control it, like Montenegro/Kosovo and a fair few using US $.

Nothing to stop Scotland using the £, but as an independent country should their policies be able to control it? One of many things to sort out before March 2016.

Old 'unions' and their original currency and the new independent countries and their currencies.

Czechoslovakia - Koruna
CZ = Koruna
Slovakia = Euro

Yugoslavia - Dinar
Slovenia = Euro
Croatia = Kuna
Montenegro = Euro
Serbia = Dinar
Bosnia and Herzegovina = Bosnia and Herzegovina convertible mark (catchy name)
Kosovo = Euro
Macedonia  =  Denar 

USSR - Ruble
Russia = Russian Ruble
Ukraine = Hryvnia
Latvia = Lats
Lithuania = Litas
Latvia = Euro (was Kroon)
Belarus = Belarusian Ruble
Georgia = Lari

I didn't look up what all those countries used immediately after the splits.

[locksmith]

Another question that springs to mind, why is the government so desperate to hang on to Scotland?

They've got their  own parliament, laws, nhs and bank holidays even!! yet government has pledged even more powers (no idea what).

So even with a NO vote it would appear to the average Englishman that they are not part of the union anyway, so what gives?

[VNA]

[BBROWN1664]

Another perspective to consider.

At the moment in the UK we hate all the Europeans coming over and getting the benefits etc. Things have been put in place to stop them arriving and claiming benefits immediately now. If the vote results in a "Yes", Scots will not be free to move south and start (or continue) claiming benefits while they look for jobs. Could save the English a few quid.
In addition, the Poles, Slovaks, Romanians etc come over and work for peanuts instaed of the English going rate. At the moment, the Scots come down and expect the going rate. Will that change so they start accepting the European rates instead? Again, could save us a few quid though I haven't found any Scottish bricklayers that are as industrious (or as cheap) as the Poles yet.

[VNA]

If the vote results in a "Yes", Scots will not be free to move south and start (or continue) claiming benefits while they look for jobs. Could save the English a few quid.

How do you figure that?

[Phil]

  If the vote results in a "Yes", Scots will not be free to move south and start (or continue) claiming benefits while they look for jobs. Could save the English a few quid.

I doubt that very much. As part of the current Common Travel Area with the UK and Republic of Ireland, I assume and would hope that that stays the same. I would be appalled if it gets to that state of affairs, this is the UK ffs.
What about all the current Scots residing in England/Wales/NI? Are you suggesting we have some sort of ethnic cleansing and boot them out?

[lew600fazer]

Reading Locksmiths&BBROWN1664 posts, do you really believe that it is the ENGLISH(people) that are surppporting the Scots and the rest of the UK.
Fact it is British&Foreign business that is supporting the UK , those businesses just happen to be based in and around the financial sector of London. In those businesses you will find a lot of Scots, Welsh, N Irish and other Nationalities working in that sector.

I am sure they are adding to the success of those businesses along with there English co workers.

[slimwilly]

I bet there are thousands of scottish people working inthe city who are totally ashamed and embarressed at the behavior of the yes vote clan.

[Looney tune]

Why are the polling stations issuing pencils to mark your vote, very fishy, pun intended.

[BBROWN1664]

If the vote results in a "Yes", Scots will not be free to move south and start (or continue) claiming benefits while they look for jobs. Could save the English a few quid.

How do you figure that?

Oops. Missed a few words out.

If the vote results in a "Yes", Scots will not be free to move south and start (or continue) claiming benefits immediately while they look for jobs. They will have to wait a number of months like other EU immigrants. Could save the English a few quid.

Better?


:pokefun

[VNA]

I guess BBROWN1664 has already completed the negotiations between Scotland and the remainder of the UK ahead of the referendum result!      :rolleyes

[lew600fazer]

I guess BBROWN1664 has already completed the negotiations between Scotland and the remainder of the UK ahead of the referendum result!      :rolleyes

BBROWN, is either a wind up merchant or BNP.

[VNA]

Ach time fae another snap;

[mickvp]

well, I've been and cast my vote. Can't wait to see what the result is tomorrow morning. I hope its how I have voted, but if not, I wont be that angry and will of course respect it. Can't say anymore than that really.

[VNA]

Absolutely!  I'm knackered was up late last night taking daft photos on a beach in North Ayrshire.

Think I'll go and have a wee kip, then pop down to our local YES office, assuming it manages to stay open and catch the result coming in.

But yes will be celebrating whatever the result, just holding this referendum means we have already achieved the impossible.

[unfazed]

Yes  for  F re ed o m :thumbup

Must be watching to much Braveheart 

[mickvp]

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Must be watching to much Braveheart 

talking of Braveheart... Im genuinely shocked that was not televised at some point this week.

[unfazed]

Me to, I really thought it would be have been shown at least once, :'( to inspire a few 

Great film even if it did stretch the truth a little bit.

[mickvp]

Right well, the polls have now closed - the counting begins. Whatever the result - its Friday tomorrow and my bike is getting Ivanised

Can we all be pals again and take the piss out of each other :lol


Oh, and here is the Live updates for anyone who will be checking in with interest:

http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/live-stream/

[midden]

Not sure why the bbc are bigging up the massive turn out.  It's not like a general election, this is too big for anyone not to vote and those who didn't must be mad