Thinking about going from Gen1 to a gen 2.. thoughts?

[stevierst]

I did :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(

[stevierst]

Yeah it's fairly comfy, I used to do sailsbury to Blackpool on a friday, then back again on Sunday. 480 mile round trip.
It did however have terrible fuel injection, poor ground clearance, an affinity to set on fire for no reason! And it probably the most expensive wheel bearings on the planet!
The engine fell out of tune within a week of being tweaked, and was a pig at dialling the power in for the bends. It was petrifying in the winter!!! Dashboards used to melt down, and replacing them was over a grand!
And 200 miles to a tank????? Best was about 170-180 afaicr.

It looked good, and sounded great. A bit half hearted really, couldn't wait to get rid!

[unfazed]

As long as your only thinking :lol

[AyJay]

It was a bike you could ride for 300 miles, dump the luggage and scrap knee sliders on alpine passes. And do it all again tomorrow.

The Aprilia Futura.
Nobody bought it.

Ah. Now I did look at the  Futura and Falco. They were interesting bikes and what stopped me buying one (I test rode the Falco) was the Gen 1. Simply, it had a load more engine and was much smoother than either. That's another thing about the Gen 1, you can trickle that baby down to 20mph in 6th and it will still pull away without much complaint. Yes, most inline 4s will, but V-Twins will jump clean out of the chassis if you try that.

[nickodemon]

I had a tuned falco and i really liked it. It had a great engine. I only sold it because i was offered stupid money for it. Really nice handling also. I bought a vstrom 1000 as it had a v twin engine, but it was crap. Handling poor, brakes poor and it was really lumpy around town. The falco was surprisinlg smooth low down with a midrange to die for.

[Stupid Luke]

The Japs cant really do big twins though can they. Their best effort was the SP1/2 which was only a spite attack on Ducati in WSB. Pity they didnt continue to develop that though as everyone I know who has one loves it.

I had an 04 RSV Factory which was basically the same engine as Falco, Futura. It was a nice bike but after a couple of years I was quite happy to lose 30% and buy a fireblade.

[nick crisp]

The Japs cant really do big twins though can they. Their best effort was the SP1/2 which was only a spite attack on Ducati in WSB. Pity they didnt continue to develop that though as everyone I know who has one loves it.

I had an 04 RSV Factory which was basically the same engine as Falco, Futura. It was a nice bike but after a couple of years I was quite happy to lose 30% and buy a fireblade.

Everything I've read says Suzuki had a hit with the TL1000 motor - pity 'bout the chassis though. I've just found out one of our reps at work has one he has thrown £££££££s at, including a complete revamp of the rear suspension set up, and a not-very-mild engine tune. He's supposed to be e-mailing me a pic of it soon. Track-only bike. I'll get him to list the complete spec too, as it sounds like a proper monster!

[FuZzBoM]

I must admit talk of this has opened the door to me looking at other bikes..
Always liked the VTR1000. only issue is small tank and I have heard from previous owners they do have a drinking problem.. Heard rumours of less than 100 miles to a tank if ridden hard.

On the v-twin theme I also like the SV1000. Probably a classic for the more upright riding position. again small-ish tank and limited range.

Apart from that I guess it is onto Ducati's.. ST2/ST4 or even stretch to an ST3.

Do I really gain anything though?

[nickodemon]

The only thing you gain from an Italian bike is soul. Jap bikes are definitely more reliable , but lack the character of italian bikes. I'm fortunate at the moment i can own both, but if i could only have one it would be the fazer. I may not get the thrill of the aprilia, but i know i could drive the fazer  round the world twice and not worry about it.

[lewiseyers]

just go test ride 1, simples,


i come from gsxr 1000k6 to a gen 2 and am full ivanising at the moment and suspension after that,


i brought mine cos my mrs did not like ballistic gsxr1000 rides cos pillions to high,


i find the gen 2 really comfortable i got a home made 1/4 turn quick action throttle too, by far the best mod so far and only a few pence to make,


i really starting to enjoy mine now im appreciating it for what it is rather than wanting it to be some thing else, just about to tour europe for few days two up too on it inc nurenberg ring...its a true all rounder

[ogri48]

we done about 200 miles today and i took the cb1300 because i thought it would be more comfy for the missus, but she far prefers the fz1. pushing her on it around my mates, she said she now prefers it over the gen 1 i had too. it seems pillions can feel a certain amout of what the rider does, especially with regards to a lighter more nimble bike. the better power to weight ratio and newer suspension along with ABS make flinging it around and late braking etc a lot easier for me, especially two up, and she can feel it somehow. im still a huge fan of gen ones, but you cant get awayu from the fact that they are getting on..unless you get a very well maintained bike, its going to feel its age.
gen1s score high with everybody because they are a fantastic used bike and massively good buy for what they cost, but it would seem gen 2s have to be ultra cheap to sell second hand now too. so realistically you can get the newer bike with decent mods for only a grand or so more than a clean gen1, or even the same price. you cant go wrong with either, but i still prefer the tauter, lighter sharpness of my fz1, and it was relatively very easy to get into 145plus bhp land. take advantage of the cheapness of either..

[slimwilly]

Seems to make sense old mate..


I bought mine without looking at it,without riding one, just paid and ordered it,,not worried at all,,see,we are mostly uite adaptable,,i guess i made a good choice,,i am pleased,thats what counts.

[nick crisp]

we done about 200 miles today and i took the cb1300 because i thought it would be more comfy for the missus, but she far prefers the fz1. pushing her on it around my mates, she said she now prefers it over the gen 1 i had too. it seems pillions can feel a certain amout of what the rider does, especially with regards to a lighter more nimble bike. the better power to weight ratio and newer suspension along with ABS make flinging it around and late braking etc a lot easier for me, especially two up, and she can feel it somehow. im still a huge fan of gen ones, but you cant get awayu from the fact that they are getting on..unless you get a very well maintained bike, its going to feel its age.
gen1s score high with everybody because they are a fantastic used bike and massively good buy for what they cost, but it would seem gen 2s have to be ultra cheap to sell second hand now too. so realistically you can get the newer bike with decent mods for only a grand or so more than a clean gen1, or even the same price. you cant go wrong with either, but i still prefer the tauter, lighter sharpness of my fz1, and it was relatively very easy to get into 145plus bhp land. take advantage of the cheapness of either..

You're only saying that cos you're selling yours - oh wait, mrs says she likes it?  Wasting your breath then...... :lol

[DekF]

If he's selling it why would he need to say anything in it's favour.
Give up while you're still behind Nick  :b
Cue an influx of the window licking sycophants  :lol

[Exupnut]

[DekF]

:rolleyes on cue

[ogri48]

Lol I'm not selling it now, mainly because she wants to keep it. I already make far too many selfish decisions in our relationship without listening to her, so I gotta conced. She loves going fast, and the gen 2 feels faster to her than any other I've owned apart from the busa, but more importantly when we do go a bit lairy, she feels safest on the fz1. I'd rather keep the cb as it's a rarity with the fairing and it's always nice to have summat different. But like I said, she's a good woman, I gotta cut her some slack...
i mean, how many wimmin let you keep a bike in the front room, along with all your bass gear...

[bri h]

Yep shes a keeper ogri.

[stevierst]

Bravo there Ogri, what a girl! 8)

[slimwilly]

Thats odd,,all very very wrong