Aaaaaggggggghhhh

[midden]

[quote author=locksmith link=topic=12390.msg139457#msg139457 date=1396713735]
I know what you are saying Nick, fortunately I can afford pretty much what ever I want, but I don't. I have to justify it to myself, the amount I spend, what I will get out of it compared to the old one etc etc. I don't change just for the sake it and appreciate what I have got.
Bearing that in mind I have the same dilemma, the possibility of deeply regretting selling the Fazer!!!

So, if you can afford pretty much whatever you want, why not keep the Gen 2 aswell. You could have the MT09 for the sunny sunday plaything. Go on, you only live once and you can't take it with you 
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Fair point. then there's no regret and if you find yourself over time never using the gen2  you will know to sell.

[nick crisp]

Yeah, go on locksmith, live the dream all us paupers would like to! Do it for us  :lol

2 bikes isn't excessive. Look at that greedy-guts red98; he's up to about 5 now  :rolleyes

I would defo have 2 bikes in your position. The Fazer, cos I just love it, never tire of it; and the 2nd bike I'd chop and change as the fancy took me, try some new stuff, keep up with the modern stuff, see what they're all about.

You know it makes sense 

[peterjca]

It is a legal requirement that you update the photo on the card license every ten years. Therefore I would guess that to still hold a paper only license is illegal, and the fines can be quite draconian.

WRONG!

I still have my paper license and there is absolutely no obligation for me to turn it into a photocard one. It's entirely legal - insurance companies still accept photocopies of it for example.

[locksmith]

[quote author=Lez72 link=topic=12390.msg139553#msg139553 date=1396745982]
[quote author=locksmith link=topic=12390.msg139457#msg139457 date=1396713735]
I know what you are saying Nick, fortunately I can afford pretty much what ever I want, but I don't. I have to justify it to myself, the amount I spend, what I will get out of it compared to the old one etc etc. I don't change just for the sake it and appreciate what I have got.
Bearing that in mind I have the same dilemma, the possibility of deeply regretting selling the Fazer!!!

So, if you can afford pretty much whatever you want, why not keep the Gen 2 aswell. You could have the MT09 for the sunny sunday plaything. Go on, you only live once and you can't take it with you 
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Fair point. then there's no regret and if you find yourself over time never using the gen2  you will know to sell.
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But I can't justify to myself having two (fairly similar) road bikes . I do have the WR as well but that's not getting used.
I may keep the gen2 to sell privately so will have some breathing space if I get it terribly wrong but the missus wouldn't be too impressed :lol

[peterjca]

I know what you are saying Nick, fortunately I can afford pretty much what ever I want, but I don't. I have to justify it to myself, the amount I spend, what I will get out of it compared to the old one etc etc. I don't change just for the sake it and appreciate what I have got.
Bearing that in mind I have the same dilemma, the possibility of deeply regretting selling the Fazer!!!

I was going to be in the market for a new bike next year. However, having recently spent much dosh on my FZ1 (new generator, new can, new tyres, chain & sprockets, braided hoses etc.), I'm postponing that decision for three years when I hit an important birthday  :eek

I don't have the room to keep two bikes (no garage) so the FZ1 would go.

There's a lot happening in the bike world just now (the MTs, the new 1200S Monster, KTMs, BMW S1000R (which I think looks pants), Triumph up to something in response etc.) that in three years time there should be even more tempting bikes on the go.

I'm looking forward to 2017!

[mtread]

I still have my paper license and there is absolutely no obligation for me to turn it into a photocard one. It's entirely legal - insurance companies still accept photocopies of it for example.

RIGHT!
I've still got mine too.

[nick crisp]

But I can't justify to myself having two (fairly similar) road bikes . I do have the WR as well but that's not getting used.
I may keep the gen2 to sell privately so will have some breathing space if I get it terribly wrong but the missus wouldn't be too impressed :lol

But what you said about how the Fazer felt after trying the MT says to me they're not similar?

What would you get for the missus?      :lol

[Slaninar]

Gay...    :rolleyes




:evil

[noggythenog]

Sounds like the MT09 has the agility of a 600 with much more power......i like that!




So you didn't feel any issue with the rear shock then locksmith like in some reviews?...that's good...prob just journalist talk.


I think i might just give the MT07 a chance too.....engine wise sounds like all i need....maybe not suspension wise though....but for 5k......i could stick an Ohlins shock on one & it'd still be a cheap bike......it looks tiny...but so does the MT09 until you sit on it & find it has lots of leg room.

[peterjca]

I have only seen the MTs from afar in real life. I've not examined one up close. The Yamaha dealer who did the recent work on my FZ1 was telling me that he test rode the new MTs but wouldn't buy one. He said they really are cheap as chips, the plastics are cheap and the build quality isn't great either. He said that you could easily snap the speedo off the bikes. This is a Yamaha dealer dissing the new bikes to a new customer (me).

Square that with e.g. Bike magazine masturbating over the MT-07 in the April edition.

Personally, the snatchy throttle reports of the MT-09 and the squidgy suspension of both MT-07 and MT-09 coupled with teeny tanks means I'd not buy one, but wouldn't say no to a free test ride!

[fazersharp]

This is more like what I would buy.
I dont like the half arse seat cover better if it was full so you canot see any seat

[noggythenog]

Nice one fazersharp 8)


I reckon all grey wheels would look nice on those.


But im not a fan if wheel stripes stickers

[fazersharp]

By your command !
I like the white wheel stripes on the all black one as they go with the white stripe around the grey decals, not needed with grey wheels tho

[noggythenog]

Ye i like Grey. 8)

[locksmith]

Noggy, suspension wise, after the initial feeling bumpy, probably due to the bike being lighter and not set up for me, I got on ok with it. It was powering out of bends quiet nicely.
Peter, Yes in std and A modes you could make it snatchy by being quick winding the throttle, but in B mode it was much like the FZ1, very rideable.

There is certainly no lack of power in normal road riding and being lighter than an R6 with that nice upright riding position I feel a good rider would be VERY quick on an MT-09.  (not me I hasten to add )

I'm starting to like the Kenny Roberts white one now, I wonder how well they are painted, do you think there will be paint issues later on?

[noggythenog]

Cheers locksmith


If you were impressed then i'm pretty sure id be ecstatic.......such competition though i really like those Z800's.


& those fancy paint schemes are the icing on the cake. 8)




I haven't been riding bikes that long but i've always been into them, since before i was a a teenager......or was that just the backstreet heroes babes :b ........anyway it seems that bike paint is like the economy......every 10 years we go through a peak & then a trough........bland or stealthy or discreet or conservative........to in yur face, woohoo, look at me, crazyness........& all the while something in between.


Bike design has become too boring & samey but utilitarian......& easy & quick paint is the norm......but now all of a sudden there is the glimmer of a resurgence.....bikes are getting fun again & the style is taking a front seat....because the average sunday rider punter wants that....work their arse off all week, stressed out their nut & then lose themselves in an attack of the senses day out....so what if you gotta stop to fuel up after 100 miles....you'll bloody want to anyway just to gloat to your mates about how much they focced up that last corner...& have a bacon butty....& if you can admire some crazy good paintwork while eating that butty then all the better i reckon.






So im guessing now but those paint schemes are yamaha endorsed i thought they said...so surely they are of good quality...if the sprayer has got a contract with a leading jap uk company then you'd think they'd want to get a good reputation...because it could hit off & become mainstream.




But perhaps it's yamaha putting the feelers out & if nobody pays the extra for these trick paint versions then they'll never make it mainstream.....i reckon they'll be a hit.

[locksmith]

Aaaaaggggghhhh, I put a deposit down on one  :eek

May soon be a gen2 for sale!

Edit:  meant to add, went for a std colour, deep armor to be exact (the one that looks black in the flesh but bright purple on the yammie site!) and a load of goodies on it as well

[noggythenog]

Aaaaaggggghhhh, I put a deposit down on one  :eek

May soon be a gen2 for sale!

Edit:  meant to add, went for a std colour, deep armor to be exact (the one that looks black in the flesh but bright purple on the yammie site!) and a load of goodies on it as well

:useless




:b :b :b

[bigralphie]

Nice call, I am tempted to get a 2nd bike to partner with the ZZR1400 but really need to pay some CC debit off  :'(

[locksmith]

This is a pic I found, I've got to wait a month. It's the best pic I found to show the colour as on the yammie site it's bright purple. In the flesh it looks blackish and turns dark purply in the sunlight !

Having a few bits added like billet levers, chainguard, rad ends and rear seat cover thingie.