Open Face, Piss Pot (safe?)

[richfzs]

Most sensible thing said so far. The smurfs are taking over the asylum...

[BBROWN1664]

The first aid courses these days teach CPR without the mouth to mouth part. Chest compressions only as this pumps the blood and gets some air in the lungs. Not a lot of people know that though.

[dx408]

On the other hand, a piss pot does not need removing for someone to give you mouth to mouth resuscitation or for the ambulance guys to use an O2 mask on you meaning potentially less neck injuries.

Personally, I wear a flip front most of the time so have the best of both. Full face protection but easy access should it be needed.

BTW, I know that the current method of CPR does not include mouth to mouth (just chest compressions) but not everyone does!

One good point that's why I use a flip front as well

[Slaninar]

My job gives me a great insight into road safety and this morning I found myself dealing with a poor HD rider that had came together with a small HGV. He was wearing an open faced helmet and is now a few teeth short and has a seriously painful jaw along with other injuries.
I'm not a law man so don't know the laws on lids but when is a helmet not a helmet? Or when does a helmet become a hat?

Open face lids are OK for Harley riders.

[stevierst]

Another jib at HD riders

[Razgruff]

So, yes, it may well be your choice to wing it and skimp on safety gear, but it would be wrong to think the consequences wouldn't affect anyone else.

yep I skimp on side impact protection, airbags, the stability of 4 wheels.
And how many times have I heard motorcycle haters remind me how they are bloody dangerous things, and should be banned.

What gives bikers the right to get thrown across somebodies bonnet, and traumatise the poor driver when the see the bikers body slid under to wheels of an oncoming artic.
If the bloody idiot biker was in a car, the worst that would have happened is his airbag would have gone off Quite possibly the accident may never have happened in the first place if the idiot was in a car and given the driver a chance to see something of a decent size.
Bloody bikes you can never see them, it's their own bloody fault, must have some kind of death wish to get on the bloody things in the first place.

It ain't what you wrap around your head that will save your life.
It's the processes that go on inside your head every millisecond of a ride

[Dead Eye]

It ain't what you wrap around your head that will save your life.
It's the processes that go on inside your head every millisecond of a ride

Couldn't have said it better myself

[stevierst]

[quote author=Razgruff link=topic=11975.msg132487#msg132487 date=1394224102]
It ain't what you wrap around your head that will save your life.
It's the processes that go on inside your head every millisecond of a ride

Couldn't have said it better myself
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Touche!

[Slaninar]

It ain't what you wrap around your head that will save your life.

Whenever you fall and hit your head, for whatever reason, helmet will make a big difference. Just like seat belt of a car.

It's the processes that go on inside your head every millisecond of a ride

Some food for thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWFVB7aUsTw

[Razgruff]

Whenever you fall and hit your head, for whatever reason, helmet will make a big difference. Just like seat belt of a car.

We're discussing whether having a chin guard on your helmet makes a significant difference.
Not about wearing or not wearing a helmet.

We could start discussing the the improved safety of a 5 point car seat belt over a 3 point seat belt  :pokefun

I just find all the good kit discussions ironic when you take a step back from them and view them from a wider road safety view point.

Do you think that if motorcycles did not already exist, and were a new invention.
A vehicle with so little protection for it's operator and inherent stability issues would be allowed on public roads.

[Slaninar]

We're discussing whether having a chin guard on your helmet makes a significant difference.
Not about wearing or not wearing a helmet.

We could start discussing the the improved safety of a 5 point car seat belt over a 3 point seat belt  :pokefun

I just find all the good kit discussions ironic when you take a step back from them and view them from a wider road safety view point.

Do you think that if motorcycles did not already exist, and were a new invention.
A vehicle with so little protection for it's operator and inherent stability issues would be allowed on public roads.

I was reffering to this:


"It ain't what you wrap around your head that will save your life."
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[stevierst]

Sod it, I'm gonna take after this dude!

[Dead Eye]

That's soo awesome!

[richfzs]

Sod it, I'm gonna take after this dude!

Tsk tsk, no gloves, remember ATGATT kids :wink