You want to be lazy on the clutch lever? Get an automatic.
Want more fun fast riding - get 600's suspension upgraded.
Want more power? Go to the racetrack - 600 has more power than is safe to use in the street.
FZS600 is one of the most reliable bikes. A Golf II in the motorcycle world - but a fun GTI one! 
A mate has 1000 and it is a heavy beast to pull in and out of garage - that does it for me. It can ride like an aeroplane, but no use to me.
1000 = megalomania in my book. No offence meant to owners. We're all different.
Most things done in a hurry need to be done again - patiently.
(16-11-13, 07:02 PM)Slaninar link Wrote: You want to be lazy on the clutch lever? Get an automatic.
Want more fun fast riding - get 600's suspension upgraded.
Want more power? Go to the racetrack - 600 has more power than is safe to use in the street.
FZS600 is one of the most reliable bikes. A Golf II in the motorcycle world - but a fun GTI one!
A mate has 1000 and it is a heavy beast to pull in and out of garage - that does it for me. It can ride like an aeroplane, but no use to me.
1000 = megalomania in my book. No offence meant to owners. We're all different.
It is funny how different we are, some people stick on 500cc twins all their lives, others jump straight onto bigger bikes.
My persnal feeling is that about 140 odd hp is probably about perfect for a street bike. That said, still wouldn't mind owning something with more than that, I just doubt I'd have the skill to get anywhere near pushing its capabilities!
I have a 02 600 and a 05 1000 ,The 600 has better wind protection,and in my humble opinion a better all rounder.
1000 is great 2 up, totally flattens hills.
Noggy , i moved house four months back,,only Nick Crisp knows where my lair is now.
An ageing test pilot for home grown widgets that may fail at anytime.
Musty in that ol caravan of yours Bill, and traipsing across that bog to get to it is a pain. Mind you, I guess those foccin biting insects are a good deterrent to any would-be bike thieves, not to mention the leeches - big ugly suckers, big as your....That's if you can find the place through that persistent fog - maybe miasma is a better word.
Did enjoy the month old soup you scraped out of that burnt saucepan in the yard tho - very tasty! What did you call it? Oh yeah, you said, come in for a quick cuppa. Was only sick for 2 months after that.
Biggest worry is when they let the "psychologically challenged" lot out of the max security prison next door tho. Can never remember what day that's on.
Might be time to stop hanging those lead-shot filled trespassers on the front razor wire tho.
Good idea Noggy, go and nick Bill's bike 
(16-11-13, 08:49 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: Musty in that ol caravan of yours Bill, and traipsing across that bog to get to it is a pain. Mind you, I guess those foccin biting insects are a good deterrent to any would-be bike thieves, not to mention the leeches - big ugly suckers, big as your....That's if you can find the place through that persistent fog - maybe miasma is a better word.
Did enjoy the month old soup you scraped out of that burnt saucepan in the yard tho - very tasty! What did you call it? Oh yeah, you said, come in for a quick cuppa. Was only sick for 2 months after that.
Biggest worry is when they let the "psychologically challenged" lot out of the max security prison next door tho. Can never remember what day that's on.
Might be time to stop hanging those lead-shot filled trespassers on the front razor wire tho.
Good idea Noggy, go and nick Bill's bike
Well!!!.....i never knew Bill was shaggin my Maw he he!!!!! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Easiest way to go fast........don't buy a blue bike
I is on up the A44 boy
An ageing test pilot for home grown widgets that may fail at anytime.
Buy an aprillia at your peril. Spares availability, long term reliability, batteries.
Only weak points of a gen1 are gearbox selectors on wheelie god bikes and shit standard suspension.
Suspension can be sorted relatively easily and cheaply and bang for buck i don't think there is a better bike out there!
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money!
I own an Aprilia tuono v4r, fazer 1000 gen 1 with full monty and a recently acquired fzs 600 for using through the winter. Firstly i have owned the aprilia v4r since june 2012. Utterly outstanding bike that has only had a headlight condensation issue which was sorted within 2 weeks with a replacement. The mechanic scratched the replacement, so had to wait another 2 weeks for it to be replaced again! That is not Aprilia's fault, but the dozy mechanics. The other issue was a coolant manifold recall. The dealer phoned me to tell me that my vin no was one of the bikes due for recall. He already had the part waiting for me, so i dropped it off and got it back in 2 hrs. The only issue with aprilia is in August when the factory shuts down for the Italian holidays, so getting parts is a nightmare. This bike has more soul than anything japanese i've ever owned. The fazer 1000 i have owned from new and probably won't ever sell it. It is an uttterly brilliant all round bike that goes like stink 'ivanised', but it also can be tootled about in traffic with the best of them. It doesn't have the thrill of the aprilia, but i know i could drive it to the end of the earth and back and it wouldn't miss a beat. The fzs 600 is a great bike bought for my winter commute, as it is a nice agile bike that brakes and handles well. It doesn't have as nice or smooth an engine as the 1000 and to me it's only advantage is it's smaller and lighter. If my fazer 1000 wasn't mint i would use it for my winter commute instead, as i used it to commute to work before winter set in. I also owned an aprilia falco, which is a slightly detuned tuono v2 and it had real character and again was reliable. It was probably similar in performance to a standard fazer 1000, but again the ride had a bit of Italian flare and was a joy to own.
If it's broken, it's not fixed.
As someone has already pointed out, there are no 'bad' bikes any more so talk of one brand being better or worse them any other really is quite silly.
As someone else also pointed out, the 600 can do everything you want already so you do not 'need' a 1000.
What a 1000 gives me (and you might be looking for different things) is the ability to be lazy. It doesn't matter that it makes 140hp, I never use 140hp. What I do use is 70 or 80hp when I want to overtake. On the 600, that is means getting the engine properly spinning, so you probably need to drop a cog or two. On the thousand (gen 1), I have over 70hp below 7,000 revs, so all I have to do is roll on. I also know that if I do chose to drop a cog, I can get downright naughty, but knowing I can means I rarely have to.
(18-11-13, 02:01 PM)PaulSmith link Wrote: What a 1000 gives me (and you might be looking for different things) is the ability to be lazy.
Isn't that what scooters are for?
Most things done in a hurry need to be done again - patiently.
Nobody really knows what scooters are for......
(18-11-13, 03:05 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: Nobody really knows what scooters are for......
aren't they for people who don't have the aptitude to pass the bike test? :lol
(No offence to any scooter owners, but your all mad!)
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