(20-07-13, 07:10 AM)The Male Whale link Wrote: What a load of bollocks! :eek
You have two people that have never even spoke to each other confirming they put over 22 L in their tank without overflow. Why do you continue to believe that Yamaha print the truth?
If you would care to press your theory I have a FZS1000 in the shop now and will gladly run it low and fill it in front of your very eyes. It will take at least 22 L and not a drop will be spilled - the loser pays for the juice.
With a pedantic streak like this, I reckon you must be related to my missus!
By the way, the 100 mph Yamaha put on the speedo ain't really 100 mph either... :lol
And I don't recall seeing any Fazers doing the TT either. :rollin
Whale Ha! My dad can beat up your dad, and he can get 25L into a 21 litre tank.
Seriously though, the original theme of this thread was some one overfilling at the pump, and then someone else claiming they could get even more in. Because of the filler neck design, it is possible to put a little bit more in, but when you do, it comes out the overflow.
If you are unlucky enough to use a garage that overcharges for its petrol by using short measures, then unless you know how much you should be able to hold, they can get away with it for years. If you have the ability to drain and refill a tank with measured amounts. Why don't you do it and share the results.
(21-07-13, 03:15 PM)PaulSmith link Wrote: [quote author=The Male Whale link=topic=8826.msg88931#msg88931 date=1374300637]
What a load of bollocks! :eek
You have two people that have never even spoke to each other confirming they put over 22 L in their tank without overflow. Why do you continue to believe that Yamaha print the truth?
If you would care to press your theory I have a FZS1000 in the shop now and will gladly run it low and fill it in front of your very eyes. It will take at least 22 L and not a drop will be spilled - the loser pays for the juice.
With a pedantic streak like this, I reckon you must be related to my missus!
By the way, the 100 mph Yamaha put on the speedo ain't really 100 mph either... :lol
And I don't recall seeing any Fazers doing the TT either. :rollin
Whale Ha! My dad can beat up your dad, and he can get 25L into a 21 litre tank.
Seriously though, the original theme of this thread was some one overfilling at the pump, and then someone else claiming they could get even more in. Because of the filler neck design, it is possible to put a little bit more in, but when you do, it comes out the overflow.
If you are unlucky enough to use a garage that overcharges for its petrol by using short measures, then unless you know how much you should be able to hold, they can get away with it for years. If you have the ability to drain and refill a tank with measured amounts. Why don't you do it and share the results.
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Well not really, as they're relatively regularly checked by an independant service, and the fines for underselling petrol are huge.
Just as an arguing point I did do this with my ZX9R when i drained the tank of dodgy petrol, claimed capacity was 19L, and I got just over 20.5 in without a drop coming out of the overflow pipe.
Usually fill mine to well up the neck, on side stand tho. Who's gonna try filling that far on centre stand, then leave the bike in hot sunshine? :lol
(21-07-13, 04:27 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: Usually fill mine to well up the neck, on side stand tho. Who's gonna try filling that far on centre stand, then leave the bike in hot sunshine? :lol It takes all sorts :eek
Ha! My dad can beat up your dad, and he can get 25L into a 21 litre tank.
Seriously though, the original theme of this thread was some one overfilling at the pump, and then someone else claiming they could get even more in. Because of the filler neck design, it is possible to put a little bit more in, but when you do, it comes out the overflow.
If you are unlucky enough to use a garage that overcharges for its petrol by using short measures, then unless you know how much you should be able to hold, they can get away with it for years. If you have the ability to drain and refill a tank with measured amounts. Why don't you do it and share the results.
Well at least you are consistent - more bollocks! :lol
The original post was about someone running out of fuel and not about overfilling which only became a point after you introduced it. Try to stay with us here eh? :rolleyes
Secondly, you CAN fill the tank to the brim without a drop spilling down the overflow so that statement is also bollocks.
Someone else answered your third bollocks statement about short measures - trading standards measure them regularly
As for measuring the tank, there is no point as the answer will be "more than 21 litres" which was what I said originally and you then tried to make out was a fool for saying say so. I think you will find that a grasp of the facts is always advantageous when attempting to ridicule someone else's point of view. To do otherwise simply makes you look ill informed and rude.
As for filling up the tank and leaving in the sun (not your bollocks this time....), most people I know ride their bike away from the filling station after buying fuel - a couple of miles leaves an air gap as fuel is used.
I must say that you have impressive repertoire - there seems to be an endless stream of things you know fuck all about but are equipped to debate about at length.
The nights must just fly by in your house.... :z
Some advice to consider - when finding oneself in a hole, the first thing to do is to stop digging.
I should know better than to argue with an idiot, they always bring me down to their level and then beat me with experience.
I give up - the world is flat after all.
Whale
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(21-07-13, 04:27 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: Usually fill mine to well up the neck, on side stand tho. Who's gonna try filling that far on centre stand, then leave the bike in hot sunshine? :lol (21-07-13, 08:10 PM)The Male Whale link Wrote:
As for filling up the tank and leaving in the sun (not your bollocks this time....), most people I know ride their bike away from the filling station after buying fuel - a couple of miles leaves an air gap as fuel is used.
Whale Erm, I said leave the bike in hot sunshine after filling up. And it was merely in jest  The whole damn argument is pointless anyway :rolleyes
indeed, a completely pointless debate ...! :lol
(15-07-13, 12:50 PM)PaulSmith link Wrote: [quote author=The Male Whale link=topic=8826.msg87609#msg87609 date=1373789755]
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The tank will hold at least 22.1 litres even when still running. I got that in mine when running on the light for 35 miles.
... Next time you try putting that much fuel in, have a look at the puddle on the ground under your right foot. There is an overflow pipe in the tank, and it is there for a reason.
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Your original bollocks, and my original response to it. You brought up tank capacity, with a nice big bold statement of fact. Of course it must be right because you have said it is. No mention of the possibility of overflowing or shortchanging, and not even much help to the original poster, but none the less, [size=1em]The Whale hath spoken[/size]!
Next time you try putting that much fuel in, have a look at the puddle on the ground under your right foot. There is an overflow pipe in the tank, and it is there for a reason.
Your original bollocks, and my original response to it. You brought up tank capacity, with a nice big bold statement of fact. Of course it must be right because you have said it is. No mention of the possibility of overflowing or shortchanging, and not even much help to the original poster, but none the less, [size=1em]The Whale hath spoken[/size]!
You seem to have reached rock bottom and are continuing to dig.
My nice statement of fact was based on my personal experience and not what "I read in a book". There was no spillage and there was no short measure.
You still seem to doubt that fact and are therefore inferring, again, that I am a liar. I do not take kindly to that from someone I don't know.
After many years on this forum where I have learned a lot more from listening to advice based on others experiences than from any reading of books, I think you, sadly, are missing the point of these forum - they are to listen and exchange opinions based on what others have learned through hard earned experience.
I rarely express an opinion unless I am pretty sure what I am saying is a fact and, therefore, relevant to those that may want to expand their knowledge. Where I have been wrong, and there have been times, I have listened to the points made carefully and changed my opinion - this is called "learning" from others who know more.
Anyway, I refuse to enter a battle of wits with an unarmed man so will make this my last post on the subject.
To those who state that this is a pointless argument then I agree - the issue is clearly made BUT I ask you to consider YOUR responses if ridiculed publicly for daring to print a fact.
Paul, if you would care to pm me with your address and contact number, I will gladly pop along and we can debate the issue of inferring I am a liar in person - You may rest assured that I am more than keen to put you straight on what is acceptable to put in print on a public forum when you repeat it to my face.
Whale
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Foccing hell, it's only a litre or 2 of petrol FFS! :lol
First thought - time to stop the arguing before it gets out of hand.
Second thought - carry on, it's a hoot!
Third thought - if carrying on, at least keep it funny/civil.
Fourth thought (and now I need a rest!) - quite right JZS, all over a litre or two of petrol!
I am sorry you think I suggested you are a liar, that was never my intention. Nothing I have seen you say or imply has ever shown any deliberate attempt at dishonesty.
That you are an idiot, there is no doubt, but no, you are not a liar.
Oooh what a load of hot air. To the OP - when the little orange light in your clocks starts glowing fill up at the next opportunity. If you believe the next opportunity is more than 35 miles away ride slowly and gently.
Personally I have never got more than 40 miles after the light - but then again I haven't tried.
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
I'm just waiting to see who runs out of "Fuel" first. :lol
Lets pour some petrol on it!
I'm thinking of making a custom built fuel side pannier.
When the reserve light goes on I won't give a fuck about how close the next garage is :evil
where does the muffler go?
Where's that picture of the fishing trawler when you need it.
I wouldn't worry about whether the tank holds 20 or 21 Litres or even 22 at a push. The point is that both the Fazer FZS 1000 & the 02/03 600 Foxeye have a decent tank size unlike a lot of modern bikes where practicality takes a back seat to the design & fashion "gurus". When you get to my age stopping for fuel is the least of your worries-its more a case of wheres the loo! :lol
Yep, wouldn't want any more tank range. Stopping for a piss, a coffee and a fag, stretching the legs - especially if you come across a good café - all makes a ride more enjoyable, not to mention bearable. It's not as if I'm ever going to want to cross a desert on my Fazer!
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