A new Police awareness in Wales

[slimwilly]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-22521615

[Dave48]

Lot of "Food for Thought" there, Slimwilly.
As a Midlander who reveres Wales for many reasons including its amazing roads/scenery, its always sad to read about the riders who come to grief.
However,reading through the report I felt that the statistics might have been more useful if they stated the actual number killed,seriously injured,minor injuries etc
Also might have been better to show figures for ALL classes of road user.
Not sure you can directly compare figures for large rural  counties ( Powys & Carmarthenshire) with cities (Swansea & Cardiff).
Motorcycle accidents-here again further breakdown of statistics into actual CAUSE of accident would be more helpful than simply quoting total  number.
In Powys (2011) of the 68 killed/injured 51 accidents involved bikes over 500cc. Don't quite see the relevance of this statistic quoted in isolation. The implication is that bikes above this capacity are "more dangerous/likely to be involved in accidents" than smaller engine machines.
Doesn't take much statistical analysis to determine "these tend to be male riders on powerful bikes,during the drier months of the year"! :eek
Far more useful(& less emotive) to break down the statistics into cause/contributory factors/location-then it is possible to address these issues rather than to use the stats to support the argument suggested here that powerful bikes are inherently dangerous.
How many were accidents in isolation(eg failed to negotiate bend-rider error) & how many involved other road users( eg car pulled out/across riders path)?
We all want to enjoy our riding & live intact to tell the tale! and in my experience it is a very small minority of riders who act irresponsibly but reports like this don't tell the whole story. :rolleyes

[ChristoT]

Lot of "Food for Thought" there, Slimwilly.
As a Midlander who reveres Wales for many reasons including its amazing roads/scenery, its always sad to read about the riders who come to grief.
However,reading through the report I felt that the statistics might have been more useful if they stated the actual number killed,seriously injured,minor injuries etc
Also might have been better to show figures for ALL classes of road user.
Not sure you can directly compare figures for large rural  counties ( Powys & Carmarthenshire) with cities (Swansea & Cardiff).
Motorcycle accidents-here again further breakdown of statistics into actual CAUSE of accident would be more helpful than simply quoting total  number.
In Powys (2011) of the 68 killed/injured 51 accidents involved bikes over 500cc. Don't quite see the relevance of this statistic quoted in isolation. The implication is that bikes above this capacity are "more dangerous/likely to be involved in accidents" than smaller engine machines.
Doesn't take much statistical analysis to determine "these tend to be male riders on powerful bikes,during the drier months of the year"! :eek
Far more useful(& less emotive) to break down the statistics into cause/contributory factors/location-then it is possible to address these issues rather than to use the stats to support the argument suggested here that powerful bikes are inherently dangerous.
How many were accidents in isolation(eg failed to negotiate bend-rider error) & how many involved other road users( eg car pulled out/across riders path)?
We all want to enjoy our riding & live intact to tell the tale! and in my experience it is a very small minority of riders who act irresponsibly but reports like this don't tell the whole story. :rolleyes

What do you expect, actual truth in reporting?

[ddtwelve]

Might be north wales saw something similar last month ,and northwales chief constable has got it in foe all motorists that drive over the limit  :eek

[Arfa]

Correlation does not imply causation.

"...these tend to be male riders on powerful bikes,during the drier months of the year." - because there are loads of female motorcyclists in Wales on tiny bikes in the middle of the winter who never crash - duh!

[slimwilly]

As in "70 bikers were killed or injured in Powys" so if someone caught their foot under the sidestand getting it out of the garage and reported to a doctor or A and E , they are counted as "dead or injured" a bit misleading to be fair.