silly season,its started

[Tiberius Onklevaart]

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[Tiberius Onklevaart]

If it keeps one biker out of A&E then yes, protective clothing must be compulsory, it's subsidized anyway.

If it keeps one driver out of the mortuary then yes, helmets must be made compulsory, its subsidised anyway.

Going by the logic.

You talk about extreme?
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[noggythenog]

As ever the extreme examples have to come out - lets all wear helmets in cars, no dangerous sports et al.

This is about using your common sense to avoid serious injury and the consequences, not about freedom of choice to risk injury playing sport etc,

COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!

I did use common sense, i assessed the risk at that time & off i went, it was uber early am bank holiday with nobody about,ive been in more danger on my mountain bike,i rode real slow, was probably about a 3 minute drive, i seen 3 cars during the trip & they were passing the garage as i was filling up.


Like i said i wont be doing it again, it was like trying a cigarette just to see what it was like & i hated it. But i did make a judgement.

[dBfazer600]

Common Sense in that case dictates that we do not get on bikes as it is inherently dangerous and is more so by the fact that most cagers are blind to their surroundings.

You have a right and choice to voice your point of view but under your own argument we should all be dictated to like the Chines

Daz

[Streetbudgie]

Helmets in cars are an extreme, yes,

Protective clothing on bikes is common sense.

I reserve the right to identify those that do not wear protective clothing when it is so readily and cheaply available as idiots.

[Tiberius Onklevaart]

It appears that you reserved the right to call it to other posters as well.

Well done

[Tiberius Onklevaart]

And by the way, its about 70 quid for decent protective trousers. That ain't cheap

[Razgruff]

http://www.damninteresting.com/the-balance-of-risk/

how many guys won't be hitting trees and hedges trying to get there knees down on corners,
if they were wearing shorts 

[ponkster]

" Truth is Subjectivity."

[Ian-man]

Well budgie, you are entitled to your opinion and that's fine. But other people are entitled to a different opinion and that doesn't make them idiots or selfish.
I am sure there are plenty people that work in the NHS that see terrible things that still smoke, drink and eat too much.

Only a person who has never been fat or smoked can be so condescending to people who struggle with these issues. I don't know of any fat people who don't wish to be thin.

Everyone at some point makes decisions in life that can have bad consequences. I am sure at some point in your life this will happen to you. Hopefully you won't get told your a selfish twonk that doesn't deserve attention when you do.

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[JoeRock]

And by the way, its about 70 quid for decent protective trousers. That ain't cheap

Minimum! But that said, personally I value the skin on my body at a fair bit more than £70!

[Tiberius Onklevaart]

If you got it go for it. I paid that for my textile ones second hand. It still aint cheap.

[Streetbudgie]

Well budgie, you are entitled to your opinion and that's fine. But other people are entitled to a different opinion and that doesn't make them idiots or selfish.
I am sure there are plenty people that work in the NHS that see terrible things that still smoke, drink and eat too much.

Only a person who has never been fat or smoked can be so condescending to people who struggle with these issues. I don't know of any fat people who don't wish to be thin.

Everyone at some point makes decisions in life that can have bad consequences. I am sure at some point in your life this will happen to you. Hopefully you won't get told your a selfish twonk that doesn't deserve attention when you do.

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First of all show me exactly where I have said anyone does not deserve treatment - because I haven't, Read through the fucking thread before throwing comments out.

Second of all it's one thing to call people idiots for ignoring common sense but wishing bad stuff on people fro expressing an opinion is just sick.

[Streetbudgie]

If you got it go for it. I paid that for my textile ones second hand. It still aint cheap.

How much would you pay for a pair of Levis?

Hein Gericke start CE approved textile trousers at £59 I reckon the skin on my legs is worth all of that and more.

[Tiberius Onklevaart]

I'd pay 20 quid for levi like I would any other denims. Except those that have the proper kevlar stuff but they still ain't cheap. Is 70 quid something to be sniffed at nowadays?
It appears I might still be stuck in 1995 where 70 notes was actually considered a lot of money.

[Tiberius Onklevaart]

And as an aside Budgie, no-one has wished you ill for expressing your opinion, least of all that last poster. Maybe you just read what you want to read. Thats fine as well. Charge on. Maybe take a breath tho eh?

[Ian-man]

[quote author=Ian-man link=topic=7663.msg74446#msg74446 date=1367960349]
Well budgie, you are entitled to your opinion and that's fine. But other people are entitled to a different opinion and that doesn't make them idiots or selfish.
I am sure there are plenty people that work in the NHS that see terrible things that still smoke, drink and eat too much.

Only a person who has never been fat or smoked can be so condescending to people who struggle with these issues. I don't know of any fat people who don't wish to be thin.

Everyone at some point makes decisions in life that can have bad consequences. I am sure at some point in your life this will happen to you. Hopefully you won't get told your a selfish twonk that doesn't deserve attention when you do.

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First of all show me exactly where I have said anyone does not deserve treatment - because I haven't, Read through the fucking thread before throwing comments out.

Second of all it's one thing to call people idiots for ignoring common sense but wishing bad stuff on people fro expressing an opinion is just sick.
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Well you can get off your high horse swearing at me and I didn't wish bad stuff on you. I said that at some point you may make a bad decision that ends up with bad consequences. Which is different.

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[JoeRock]

I'd pay 20 quid for levi like I would any other denims. Except those that have the proper kevlar stuff but they still ain't cheap. Is 70 quid something to be sniffed at nowadays?
It appears I might still be stuck in 1995 where 70 notes was actually considered a lot of money.

Don't get me wrong mate, being a student I'm aware of £70 (it's about 20 pints  :lol ). However when you put it like that for me, I'd be more than happy to drop the pints and pay that for a pair of trousers!

[chaparral02]

Just an old pic I found on my PC..

[chaz]

Just a point, don't you have to pay for treatment if you're in a R T A? or your insurance company has to, I don't think this counts as a claim?

just googled this?

On the basis of some quick research to verify my assumptions, this is all covered by Section 158 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and permitted under paragraph 484.4 of the GMS contract.

It is done to ensure that the full cost of medical treatment consequential from a motor accident is met by the relevant motor insurance policy. All such policies must include this cover in order to be valid.

The BMA Guidance suggests that an account be presented (rather than cash paid at reception before the appointment), perhaps to be forwarded to the driver or their insurance company.

NHS Hospitals have a direct arrangement for recovery of costs from the insurance companies.