Tonight
QUESTION TIME 2235 BBC 1
May just help with the debate and understanding of each others rationals.
It may not change each others point of view but could be an insight.
Daz
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You Could Say She's Got It All.
Quote:If the private sector can demonstrate delivery of a public spectacle such as the Olympics then I'll eat my FZ1.
you didn't say anything about 'pay' you said deliver. They delivered. Rather admirably it must be said although somewhat over budget it would appear.
11-04-13, 10:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-04-13, 10:37 PM by Aegis Bearing Mel.)
(11-04-13, 10:25 PM)peterjca link Wrote: [quote author=Tcat2001 link=topic=7157.msg69059#msg69059 date=1365715365]
I interpreted what you put. Not my fault if you're not clear in your discussions. Those statements clearly state you want choice and competition but yet are an advocate of single entity state owned utilities and services. No wonder I'm bloody confused!
My, isn't that a lovely fluffy lamb over there. Golly gosh, must mean summer is on it's way by Jingo. Huzza!!
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Nice.
(11-04-13, 10:27 PM)Tcat2001 link Wrote: you didn't say anything about 'pay' you said deliver.
Another demonstration of twatdom. You clearly read what you want to read, and see what you want to see. Despite me telling you my views on competition and the fact you'd misinterpreted one of my comments, you insist that you know what I believe in, and that I do not know what I believe in. And you just had to continue arguing this.
Typical of the looney left to resort to responses like that.
Goes along well with the celebration of a death.
As I said many posts ago, have a word with yourselves, it's pathetic and does your cause no good whatsoever. Toys out of pram!
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11-04-13, 10:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-04-13, 11:11 PM by Aegis Bearing Mel.)
Okay kiddies, I enjoy a good popcorn thread with the best of you, but if we can keep the personal insults off the thread I'd be a far happier Aegis.
At the end of the day it's an internet forum, doesn't say much for all of us if we can't have a reasoned debate without hurling abuse at one another.
That's what rotten fruit and Foc-U Meets are for.
(11-04-13, 09:43 PM)Streetbudgie link Wrote: Guess you must be one of Maggie's alleged millions that just gobbled up shares in companies you already owned, bought your council house and couldn't give a toss about the jobless millions or the homeless you step over to get to your privately owned ex local authority family home which now houses you and your ego.
Oh yes we should all look on the brightside, 10 million years ago I might have been eaten by a sabre toothed tiger, try saying that to Welsh Miner who lost his home and saw his village and family torn apart as they all had to leave to find a menial job for minimum wage just so you can drink champagne and talk about your financial portfolio.
This is fucking priceless :rolleyes
When someone comes along and removes the shackles of socialism to sink or float as best I can, admittedly without much help, then I rejoice, but then I guess that's not a very popular point of view.
My old man was as blue collar as you can get, yet when I was 9 (in 1980) he bought me a computer because he could see it was a way out for me, it's one of the two or three things I like about him. Guess what, it paid off as that computer put me on a path that provides for me and my family now, many years later.
I never said I couldn't give a toss about jobless millions, and I'm aware that some people get a much rougher deal than me, but just because I care I should throw out sound financial policies because of a bleeding heart. New Labour did that and look what a shitty mess they left behind.
Personally I think that my life is much better for not being hunted by sabre-tooth tigers but they, that's me.
My champagne years with a chocolate box thatched cottage and heated swimming pool are over. Doesn't mean they won't come about again, and I'm working my nuts off to make sure I get back to that position - why the fuck shouldn't I?
(11-04-13, 10:37 PM)peterjca link Wrote: You clearly read what you want to read, and see what you want to see.
One of the best examples of "pot and kettle" I've seen in a long while :rollin
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11-04-13, 11:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-04-13, 11:22 PM by ChristoT.)
Being an anarchist, and all in favour of free speech, etc, it pains me to agree with an admin. But Aegis has a valid point. Swearing at each other achieves nothing.
This entire thread, the entire rejoicing about Maggie's death says a hell of a lot more about the posters than it does about Thatcher herself. What have we achieved, what has the entire "ding dong" movement achieved? Sod all, all it shows is that there are many embittered people out there who can't put things behind them, and will likely go to the grave cursing, and wishing ill of all and sundry.
And before you lay into me, I'd like to clarify a few things:
I am a Breton, more so than a Brit. the Bretons are known forn their stubborness and refusal to forgive. Yet this outpourong of undiluted hatred would shame the most embittered crone of the deepest cranny of Brittany
I am too young to have lived under Thatcher. I do know, however, that blaming todays problems on Thatcher is daft. We've had enough politicians between her and now to fuck us sideways twice, and still have time to flip our pension funds over for seconds.
This thread is very ironically being kept alive by anti-Thatcher sentiment. Surely if you're so happy she's dead, you should want to put all thought of her behind you, and achieve some kind of closure on the matter?
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I do have respect for the dead. Just because Hitler and Stalin were evil bastards does not mean I will go and dance on their graves. I would not like to stoop to their level.
The way I see it, an old tired woman has shuffled off this mortal coil. As a Catholic, I believe there is retribution in the next life. What ever the mistakes she made whilst alive, she's gone now. Time to move on, and let her go.
The Deef's apprentice
Excellent post Christo :thumbup
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I'll keep posting as long as there are bites :nana
Beat with that banning stick Baby,  ex
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I'll keep posting as long as there are bites :nana
Beat with that banning stick Baby, ex
:rollin :rollin :rollin I hope people have this much fun when I is gone to :faz god.
Daz
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(11-04-13, 10:43 PM)Chillum link Wrote: This is fucking priceless :rolleyes
When someone comes along and removes the shackles of socialism to sink or float as best I can, admittedly without much help, then I rejoice, but then I guess that's not a very popular point of view.
My old man was as blue collar as you can get, yet when I was 9 (in 1980) he bought me a computer because he could see it was a way out for me, it's one of the two or three things I like about him. Guess what, it paid off as that computer put me on a path that provides for me and my family now, many years later.
I never said I couldn't give a toss about jobless millions, and I'm aware that some people get a much rougher deal than me, but just because I care I should throw out sound financial policies because of a bleeding heart. New Labour did that and look what a shitty mess they left behind.
Personally I think that my life is much better for not being hunted by sabre-tooth tigers but they, that's me.
My champagne years with a chocolate box thatched cottage and heated swimming pool are over. Doesn't mean they won't come about again, and I'm working my nuts off to make sure I get back to that position - why the fuck shouldn't I?
Glad you liked it, I aim to please.
Not sure what you are trying to prove with the statement above, you were bought a PC in 1980 and it opened a door for you, ok, so what?
Do you expect every Welsh Miner to throw down their pick axe and embrace the new technological world and cry "thankyou Maggie for destroying my way of earning a living and opening my eyes to the career I really should have chosen"
Just because it worked for you at aged 9 does not mean it will work for a middle aged man who has done nothing but dig all his life, who wasn't privilged with the same level of education you had, especially on technology that wasn't even dreamed about when he was at school, working his bollocks off to put food on the table for his kids and keep a roof over their heads.
Way to come across as 'fuck everyone else, I'm alright jack'.
Anyway that point is moot as you were aged 9 in 1980 when I was at work striving to be the best apprentice I could only to have it all snatched away from me at the finishing post.
Of course you don't care about Thatcher the destroyer, you weren't there and it didn't affect you. In fact you think it benefited you as you can't see the repurcussions that are still going on today.
By the way your wonderful technology isn't worth a wank without fossil fuels to power it - good luck with solar and wind power, I hear they're doing really well, should have enough power to light a whole street by next year (unless the weather changes of course).
So we are all still dependant on dirty men working on oil rigs, down pits and in the bowels of dams, mining, drilling, creating and maintaining these resources.
Except none of that comes from the UK anymore or if it does (like North Sea Oil) it is financed overseas, with overseas employees and the profits go guess where - over fucking seas.
Still the main thing is you're ok.
On the other hand, you could get off your arse, accept the world is changing, and move with it.
Still, I suppose the inflexibility would allow us to have a "jurassic park" type setup without having all the hassle with the "recreation from dna" business
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And that glib comment has what to do with Thatcher and her destruction of UK industry?
(12-04-13, 10:20 AM)richfzs link Wrote: On the other hand, you could get off your arse, accept the world is changing, and move with it.
Still, I suppose the inflexibility would allow us to have a "jurassic park" type setup without having all the hassle with the "recreation from dna" business
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Don't encourage him, Rich. Streetbudgie (and others) is clearly so bitter that he cannot put it to rest. For his sake, I hope he will be able to get over it; I know from experience that being that bitter only makes yourself unhappy.
The Deef's apprentice
(12-04-13, 10:08 AM)Streetbudgie link Wrote: Still the main thing is you're ok.
Yes, yes it is.
Quote:Do you expect every Welsh Miner to throw down their pick axe and embrace the new technological world and cry "thankyou Maggie for destroying my way of earning a living and opening my eyes to the career I really should have chosen"
I didn't say anything about being happy about it, just that that is what they needed to do. Plenty of people learn new things, even into their old age, why not a miner? I'm not prejudiced, I think they had every right to embrace a new world and not bemoan the passing of an old one for 30+ years.
Quote:Of course you don't care about Thatcher the destroyer, you weren't there and it didn't affect you. In fact you think it benefited you as you can't see the repurcussions that are still going on today.
I know I come across as being on another planet sometimes, but I don't think I really am, especially not when I was 9. I was at school during the teachers strikes and when they switched from O levels to a mish-mash prior to GCSE's, it was a mess so excuse me for thinking it did affect me. It just didn't STOP me.
Quote:By the way your wonderful technology isn't worth a wank without fossil fuels to power it
*cough* Nuclear power *cough*
(12-04-13, 10:28 AM)Streetbudgie link Wrote: And that glib comment has what to do with Thatcher and her destruction of UK industry?
If you have to ask that, I, and several others commenting here, really are wasting our time.
Christo, fair point mate!
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good grief!! is this still going on!! go out there, fire the bike up, enjoy the ride and chill. i was affected by thatchers policies but it was years ago. life's too short. 
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