(22-03-13, 06:23 PM)dBfazer600 link Wrote: [quote author=Revilo18 link=topic=6879.msg64901#msg64901 date=1363972625]
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Who declares a bike to be classic?
Is it the individual who spends all their spare time tinkering in the shed with it and polishes it more than ride it, then pulls the tarpaulin of it at every chance to an adoring like minded person who dribbles at the site of an immaculate machine.
Or
Does someone in authority of supreme knowledge suddenly wakes one day with a thought of declare it so.
I love my Fazer and its a classic to me
Ok I love my fazer too but it's for riding and riding hard not dribbling over, all that saliva cant be good for the electrics anyhoo.
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:lol Thats tickled me and this is where mine is today as mother nature hates not only me but all bikers.
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Ahh I admit it is nice to see her all tucked up and warm. Hope you get a thaw soon. Benefits of living in the smog means I've only had three days not riding this winter.
I voted yes, bit maybe more in hope than anything else.
See you on the A3...
It all depends how people view the fazer, i view it as a very desirable bike and as such i've absolutely no inclination to ride it in all weathers, its not because i'm a gremlin that multiplies when i get water on myself but mostly because from what i've seen they dont seem to hold up to well to those conditions & my bikes in such good nick it'd be a shame to spoil it.
Some folks can afford 10k for the latest fancy dream bike so to them the fazer may just be a winter hack, to rust and get filthy but in my eyes my fazer is my dream bike so i'd rather get an old Honda as a winter, wet bike as there's a few Hondas that seem to handle the abuse a bit better, i'll keep the fazer for the summer fun, not necessarily all polished up & never used, just spared from the worst the British Isles have to offer it.
I dont quite care if it is declared a classic or not but it would be nice in future to meet some appreciators of a very nice, old bike,probably ex focers wishing they hadnt bought that 10k GS & wondering where their old faithful ended up :b
Easiest way to go fast........don't buy a blue bike
this is something ive mentioned a few times in various threads......early mk1 600`s square eyes have it all to become classics,loads made and yes used and abused but there is still some good origanal ones out there...the ones that dont make it will make good spares bikes..........i have a suzuki x7 which was no doubt owned by several 17 year olds who absolutely canned the living daylights out of it,highly collectable now as bring back happy memories of youth and freedom,the reason why i bought it,my 98 fazer is the same,owned it for over 10 years and covered over 30,000 miles on it ...all pleasure riding,if i ever sort the stutter out it would be very hard to sell....the 600 fazer is the first big bike for a lot or riders for that reason alone it deserves classic status..........let alone the fact its a damn good bike
One, is never going to be enough.....
I also must add that only the fazers with the upgraded Rad Hoses will make hyper-classic status
Easiest way to go fast........don't buy a blue bike
22-03-13, 11:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 22-03-13, 11:40 PM by dBfazer600.)
That will be those with red rad hoses Noggy
She Ain't Exactly Pretty, She Ain't Exactly Small, Fourt'two Thirt'ninefiftysix
You Could Say She's Got It All.
Look at the 3 examples given of bikes that were thought would never be classics and arguably are now
Suzuki x7
Honda ss50
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Yamaha fs1e
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All small low capacity bikes that people probably started on and then moved up in cc and forgot about, and because they were cheap probably parked up in the back of a shed and were forgotten about only to be discovered 20 years later when the people who started on them decide that they want to rebuild them and relive their early biking days and it would probably cost feck all to do. Can a fazer 600 fit into that category? I don't think so they're too practical, they work too well as an every day bike to be parked up. Also if you park up a fazer in your average sized shed/garage you'd be falling over it because it's a good sized 600 so I think what saved those bikes won't save the fazer. I could see a few die hard fans keeping them in mint condition but that's not what a fazer is all about, it's a go anywhere work horse. I hope they do last because I love them but I can't see it happening.
(22-03-13, 11:30 PM)dBfazer600 link Wrote: That will be those with red rad hoses Noggy
You'll soon see sense & spray them over in Blue or start begging me for my 2nd blue set
Easiest way to go fast........don't buy a blue bike
I can't see it being a classic; I think it'll be like the Honda CG125, a highly-regarded, popular bike, but never a classic (I reckon the R6 / R1 probably stands more chance, given that good, clean early FireBlades are becoming collectable). That said, the 600 *may* become popular in a few years, having been replaced by the 800.
It already is a classic bike!....it probably will never be matched by another bike which will be similar because the market has moved on.Just as a GS of some sort will be a classic cos it made a genre, so I think the fazer has already made its own genre .OK its one mans opinion against anothers, but another thing which is in its favour is in the production run, so little changes were made to it , as opposed to say a ZX-6 which has had so many models. These are the bikes which stand out to me from last 15 yrs and IMO will always be in my mind as classic or mould breaking -
fireblade
R1
CBR600
VFR750
Fazer 1000
speed triple
GS1200
916/998 duke
all of them created a genre and established good sales and cult following in their time.
One, is never going to be enough.....
Hard word to define ..."Classic". As far as the fazers go-they do everything we ask of them and have a "character" thats hard to define. The Gen 1 FZS thou and Foxeye 600 to my way of thinking just look right even when just parked up. Love the fact that the thou is a bit of a wolf in sheeps clothing-it does more than what it says on the tin! :lol and does it cheerfully!
I used to have a Honda 400/4. Bought new for £650 then pxed 3 years later for about £250. If only I'd known !
Yes I think the Fazer 600 will be a classic. Everybody had one, best of it's class (at the time), and looks cute.
I reckon it will make classic status similar to how the 400/4 has. Nimble, pokey well priced honest bike that sold well. It'll never be worth mega bucks like Z1 etc but will still be a worthy classic IMHO.
It will be OK in the end. If it's not OK, it's not the end.
Fazer 600 is one of the most easy to maintain, forgiving, practical do it all bike. Give me any other bike to choose, for free, but if I had to do with just on bike, it would be the FZS600 - though I might go for a foxeye version for night riding, although Starwars version is cooler IMO (black one, for a Sith lord I am...  ).
Will it be widely recognized? Time will tell. Golf II diesel is one of the best cars, do it all, ever built - if there was a new one available, with the same quality, I'd be driving it.
Bad weather? I prefer bicycle - keeps me warm. Use Fazer for fun & traveling, not as a real work-horse.
Most things done in a hurry need to be done again - patiently.
(29-03-13, 12:20 AM)demic77 link Wrote: I reckon it will make classic status similar to how the 400/4 has. Nimble, pokey well priced honest bike that sold well. It'll never be worth mega bucks like Z1 etc but will still be a worthy classic IMHO.
I think this is a good point that it doesnt hav to be worth allot o money to be a classic & it'll prob be the classic for the average man rather than a massively expensive chariot that only the rich can keep in their collections.
Easiest way to go fast........don't buy a blue bike
well said noggythenog i agree 100 per cent, my wife got an english charriot for sale looks knackerd mind no wheels on it or nothing :rollin :rollin :rollin
sent from my carafan in tenby,
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