Starting bike after 5 months!.plus my first diy oil change.

[noggythenog]

[smg id=720 type=preview align=center caption="Oil time."]


So after waiting & waiting & waiting for some nice weather i finally decide enough's enough & drag the bike outta the shed,5 months later :eek .


Reading all the controversy about starting or not starting a stored bike up periodically, back in october i opted for battery out & indoors,brimmed tank wi super unleaded,stuck a bottle of fuel stabiliser in ( which actually ended up being an additive that protects against ethanol & not stabiliser,oh well :\ ), i didnt start the bike once in all that time & i figured if there was water in the oil from storage shed condensation then it was prob best not to start it,seems logical, happy days.but i was still cacking myself about making the wrong decision & my carbs being all gummed up & glazed & having endless problems.


Thanks to the foccer fold i also plucked up the courage to do my own oil change, im not that practical so it was a bold leap but thanks everyone for all the step by step guides & answers to silly questions.ordered some castrol power,(foced up on ebay though & got 10w30,instead o 40 but ill take risk wi that considering its never likely to get hot in britain this year anyway )[size=78%]official yamaha sump plug, k&n filter,got all my little funnels & old oil container as per the pic.........&[/size]


I managed it 8) .


For any other newbs considering giving it a go then its time to hang from the honesty tree & fess up to the mistakes i made:-


-i stuck my bike on the side stand as it gives more lean for the oil coming out,originally it was all set up nicely on the main stand but i changed to side stand last minute.because my bikes jacked up with modified wishbones it leans way over on the side stand & clearance for my oil container & funnel was minimum, as such i ended up fiddling about, being awkward & spilling oil all over the path :'( ,got most of it in the end.i think next time ill start on main stand then sit on the bike & lean it over for the last drops.


-the original filter doesn't have the spanner attachment on it like the k&n,i'd read folks here saying they use gardening gloves & take it off by hand.this wasn't possible for me, my knuckles were rubbing against the downpipes & stopping me get the leverage.i opted for the messy, screwdriver hammered through the filter to get it off,i wont need to next time with the k&n.


-sump plug, im not exactly sure how tight it's supposed to be so i got it tight then gave a good half turn on top.silly statement time-the washer is described as a crush washer,does this mean that the plug should be tightened until it crushes the washer right up flush???,the old plug seemed to have the washer melted onto it,bit confused???????


After all that, choke on full,2 seconds max on starter & it fired into life 8)  yes!!!!!!!!!cash back!!!!!


Coughed & spluttered for a few seconds,almost stalled....i left it be....couple more seconds & it started picking up....few more seconds & it ran perfect & i slowly eased off the choke to zero,sat ticking over nicely.


Took it out to quickly test it out....in all my summer clothing,ended up doing 60 miles....it ran like an absolute dream!!!stonking!


Can just about feel my hands again brrrrrr!!!!


It must be a  :faz

[JZS 600]

Good work!


I always start the oil change on the centre stand as you don't get the clearance on my oil container and stick loads of old MCN's under the container.


I've got an oil filter tool and it's well worth it, I used to use a screwdriver in the past but it was messy,,,

[edc]

Well done noggy!

I did my first oil change last year.  But without being able to get a torque wrench on it i fooked up and stripped the thread...  fortunately I was putting in one of those shitty magnetic sump plugs and was able to put the old plug back in (albeit VERY carefully!).

At the same time I changed spark plugs, coolant, air filter and brake fluid.  If you can do the oil then you can definately do all the rest!

Good luck!

EdC

[Lazarus]

always say a prayer before you try and loosen the oil filter!! sometimes "he" is listening

judging by the photo, did you hang the bike on the wall to get the last of the oil out - bit extreme :lol :

[Dead Eye]

As much as I always try to be clean when changing oil, I don't remember once not getting it everywhere... usually something goes slightly amiss and bam, oil everywhere. Hopefully when I next attempt it, all should be good. I imagine it will be the car that comes round first which should be fun since its 6L of oil!! Pretty sure that's going to max out my oil pan and low and behold it will go foccin everywhere in true diy style...

[Chris]

Awesome work buddy, well done!

Bike is looking great too!

As for making a mess, it wouldn't be fun if it was easy... just wish some things weren't so much fun... haha!

It's a great feeling to do the job yourself!

Chris

[noggythenog]

Glad im not the only one that makes a mess then


What dyas reckon about the sump plug,how tight should it be & what's the crack with the crush washer???,jus looks like any old washer to me to be honest.


Next on the list i think should be the k&n air filter since im so boldly marketing them,but i had a full tank o fuel & i know that involves the tank off & i'd rather not pour 20 litres o fuel everywhere.


After that........the famous rad hoses 8)

[Chris]

Glad im not the only one that makes a mess then


What dyas reckon about the sump plug,how tight should it be & what's the crack with the crush washer???,jus looks like any old washer to me to be honest.


Next on the list i think should be the k&n air filter since im so boldly marketing them,but i had a full tank o fuel & i know that involves the tank off & i'd rather not pour 20 litres o fuel everywhere.


After that........the famous rad hoses 8)

Sounds like a good plan to me!  8)

[darrsi]

Glad im not the only one that makes a mess then


What dyas reckon about the sump plug,how tight should it be & what's the crack with the crush washer???,jus looks like any old washer to me to be honest.


Next on the list i think should be the k&n air filter since im so boldly marketing them,but i had a full tank o fuel & i know that involves the tank off & i'd rather not pour 20 litres o fuel everywhere.


After that........the famous rad hoses 8)

As long as you tilt the tank and turn off the fuel then it's just a big tin of liquid. Unplug the fuel gauge connector, undo the pivot bolt then just carefully lift the tank off and gently put it down, preferably not next to a raging bonfire.
It's no big deal at all, then you're free to dig away at the rubber mat covering the air box. The rubber is quite durable so just unhook the holes and move it forwards out of the way to the air box cover, remove the 4 screws then swap the filter, and then reverse the process!
Don't forget to turn your fuel back on!!


As for the the sump plug, it's a bolt plugging a hole!
Tighten by hand until it stops (crushes), then a quarter turn more.
If it leaks, it's not done up tight enough, chances are that it really won't leak though!
Personally i don't see the real point in a crush washer, if you manage to lose your sump bolt through some kind of vibration then your bike has much bigger issues to worry about. A bit of oil will create a seal anyway

[noggythenog]

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Glad im not the only one that makes a mess then


What dyas reckon about the sump plug,how tight should it be & what's the crack with the crush washer???,jus looks like any old washer to me to be honest.


Next on the list i think should be the k&n air filter since im so boldly marketing them,but i had a full tank o fuel & i know that involves the tank off & i'd rather not pour 20 litres o fuel everywhere.


After that........the famous rad hoses 8)

As long as you tilt the tank and turn off the fuel then it's just a big tin of liquid. Unplug the fuel gauge connector, undo the pivot bolt then just carefully lift the tank off and gently put it down, preferably not next to a raging bonfire.
It's no big deal at all, then you're free to dig away at the rubber mat covering the air box. The rubber is quite durable so just unhook the holes and move it forwards out of the way to the air box cover, remove the 4 screws then swap the filter, and then reverse the process!
Don't forget to turn your fuel back on!!


As for the the sump plug, it's a bolt plugging a hole!
Tighten by hand until it stops (crushes), then a quarter turn more.
If it leaks, it's not done up tight enough, chances are that it really won't leak though!
Personally i don't see the real point in a crush washer, if you manage to lose your sump bolt through some kind of vibration then your bike has much bigger issues to worry about. A bit of oil will create a seal anyway
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Cheers darrsi, i thought someone was gonna say there was some extra special "pressureheatyoilytorque" that would magically undo the plug half way down the road but like most annoying things common sense prevails,i'd no doubt struggle to get the plug back out even if i tried.


Plus i've added a secret ingredient to cover me for said inadvertent dodgy oil dump at any time,im surprised you didnt notice it from my upside down picture,oh whatever could it be????


I'll have that k&n by the endo the week too.


Thanks

[Dead Eye]

Just my 2 cents if the tank is full;

1) Its heavy! Mine was probably 3/4 full when I took it off and was heavier than I expected it to be, so just be aware.

2) Try not to tilt it tooo far back - there is an overflow pipe on the inside of the filler cap, so if you tilt it too far fuel may well escape down this pipe and out the bottom of the tank It may be a big tin of liquid, but its not sealed...

[darrsi]

Hence Dead Eye's slogan "What doesn't kill me, will only make me stronger"  :rollin

[Dead Eye]

I'm confused... what relation does my slogan have to my previous post? Genuinely curious, not having a go or anything

[darrsi]

If you don't drop a full tank and blow yourself up, then the weight of it will make you stronger!

Ruined...... :lol

[noggythenog]

If you don't drop a full tank and blow yourself up, then the weight of it will make you stronger!

Ruined...... :lol

Chuckle chuckle :lol !.......fuel tank weightlifting.......sort o thing they'd do in russia....coz they still dont have xbox....&  training their functional strength for when they need to.........lift a fuel tank!!! :b

[Dead Eye]

Haha, well this is true!

I can testify to just how good the fuel tanks are at not exploding though! The red one survived the fire and didn't explode thankfully and it had mostly fuel vapour inside which is much more likely to go than a full tank

[mtread]

I've just done the air filter change (K&N) without taking the tank off on a foxeye. Undone the through bolt from the back, and the small one from the front. Bit of 2" x 2" across the frame at the back to rest the back of the tank on, and hooked the lip at the front of the tank under the headstock. Didn't turn off the tap or disconnect the sensor, but the tank was only a quarter full. Quite stable as long as you don't bump into it, and gives you just enough room with a small screwdriver to get the top of the airbox off. Was mystified for a while about the rubber cover as it wasn't mentioned in the Haynes, but realised you take the side panels off as the rubber cover hooks onto the frame behind them.
Took it out for a run after. Runs nice and smooth, but haven't properly tested yet as to whether performance is up, as it's too bloody cold ....

[darrsi]

Noggy's got an 00/01 bike, tank off!

[noggythenog]

Noggy's got an 00/01 bike, tank off!

Watch out mtread youve rattled his cage now :fish ....... :lol  Interesting though & fair play to you,mind let me know if the bikes any better with it.


Uncle darrsi, i wasnt gonna do it mtreads way anyway.........Honest :\ ....if you offered advice & i never took it.....then focced it up.....would i ever hear the end of it :o :o :o

[mtread]

"I did it myyyyy wayyyy"  :evil