Recently took a new rider to Bakewell.Stopped for a coffee and parked in motor cycle bay -where we have parked many times before.25 minutes later,return to bikes and find we both have a parking fine for having no ticket!Never had to pay before-for focs sake -WHERE are you supposed to put a ticket on a bike!Seems Bakewell has decided bikers are an easy target--there is only room for 3 bikes in bike bay -so if you have to pay same price as a car,and bike bay is full --can you park in a car space?--you paid same fuckin price!
Just thought Id let you all know before you get stung too!
I think with Matlock charging for parking and now you are saying bakewell are, I think a list needs putting together of places that a biker can go and park up no charge and spend some money in the local economy on a bacon roll and a cup of tea.
City centres like Leicester have far less customers as most just drive to Fosse Park an outer town retail park with plenty of free parking.
It changes a lot from one council to another, in Mendip we (yes i am actualy a Civil Enforcment Officer aka traffic warden :evil ) dont book bikes in bike bays or timmed bays. but officaly we are ment to book you if no ticket and in a carpark car bay. out of the 11 officers here only 1 will book you in a car bay though. and only 2 will book bikes at all... anywhere other than doubles and crossings etc.
I like the areas that use the new machines that take your reg plate on the ticket. that way your covered. but for old areas that still use the old type paper tckets, the only way is to buy a ticket then photograph that ticket on your bike (make sure you have 2 pics, one of the bike and where its parked with ticket and a close up of the ticket showing time/date and issue number.) pain in the arse but then if you DO get a ticket you have solid grounds for appeal.
When asked by bikers, i know who is in the area. so will say stick it in a car bay but try to leave room for a 2nd bike, dont bother with a ticket. (we have bike bays but most can only take 2-3 bikes)
sadly it is parker beware. its your job to find out the rules where you park, some places its easyer to find out than others.
but the basic rule is if you get a ticket for parking then ALLWAYS contest the ticket. no matter how valid the ticket is.
why cant we just abide by the rules?...why as bikers should we be exempt ?.. I cant understand the concept that somehow we are special...blimey we will soon be thinking and behaving like cyclists... :rolleyes
I think bikes should have special parking areas, eg like in stratford,which is free..... but sometimes we will have to pay like any other car park user.space in town centres is short , and yes economically we have to pay for the privilege to park. You do have a choice.
Happened to me a couple of years ago in Wesminster. I appealed as there was no sign about the change. Never had to pay. If you can be arsed to write a few letters, appeal - always worth a try.
The thing about the London ones (as far as I know only Wesminster charge in central london?) is that you have to text your reg to their number and they charge you through your phone bill. Then the inspectors check your plate against their records and if it's not logged they write you a ticket. This assumes you have access to a mobile phone / know how to send texts / can read the number of the tiny little sign (about the size of an A5 bit pf paper), which is exclusive... If I had time and any sort of trust for lawyers, I'd argue that it was discrimmination!!
Bakc then it only cost £1 - so the whole thing was obviously designed to catch you out and generate funds through tickets rather than parking. Scum council that Westminster....
I would get in touch with Derbyshire council and ask them where they expect a ticket to be displayed on a motorcycle. Can they prove you didnt but a ticket which was then removed before the wardens arrived?
Sadly baggy its down to you to prove you had one, not them to prove you didn't.
Even then they can if they want to be an arse, say the signs say you need to display the ticket.
But most will be fine if you have the 2 pics I sugest above.
(27-02-13, 01:40 PM)baggy link Wrote: I would get in touch with Derbyshire council and ask them where they expect a ticket to be displayed on a motorcycle. Can they prove you didnt but a ticket which was then removed before the wardens arrived?
The reply I had from the parking fuhrer was round a cable or sumat then take a picture wiv yur fone!
Yeah, but what about luddites like me who do not have a mobile with a camera on board ? I just keep my phone for emergencies and it's a PAYG. I don't want a new fangled take a pic, send an email, check my GPS location, make the coffee la di da di da crappy old phone where the missus and any tom dick or harry can contact me whenever tey feel like it.
Eh, eh eh eh, what about me then. What I I supposed to do........I suppose I could draw a picture? I wonder if they would accept that...bloody thievin barstewards. ( no offence ghostbiker :\ )
If you want to give God a good laugh, tell him your plans.
I wouldn't have a problem paying for bike parking in a city centre if there was a bar for locking it up to, most of the time its just M/C written in a half size car parking bay.
Unfortunately, the grasping pencil pushers who impose charges like this in smaller villages are generally so focused on maximising parking revenue that they fail to see council income from rates falling when short stay visitors go elsewhere and the local businesses fail.
I got told by a Bradford city traffic womble to take the pay and display ticket with me and not to display on the bike then send it in if i was fined and they scrap the penalty,
seems a ball ache but kinda makes sense ...
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