Oil Additives

[Disky]

Does anyone use any oil additives in the engine oil ?
Was thinking of using "Activ8" friction reducer


any advice ?

[darrsi]

I've never really spoken about it, but i've been using Activ8 for around 4 years and i highly recommend it.
I found it to give a noticeably smoother gear change, especially when you very first use it.
I even got my dentist trying it out and he totally agreed with me.
So personally i'm all for it.

[packie]

I've never really spoken about it, but i've been using Activ8 for around 4 years and i highly recommend it.
I found it to give a noticeably smoother gear change, especially when you very first use it.
I even got my dentist trying it out and he totally agreed with me.
So personally i'm all for it.

So it lubes you teeth ok too??....mighty stuff!!  :lol

[noggythenog]

I wondered when you'd think of that pike!!!,ive been thinking the same thing after reading about an american product called Marvel Mystery Oil that they all swear about,i know these testimonials can be a bit one sided but it did look convincing,folk suggesting that they appear to have less general engine related malfunctions,you put some in the tank,some in the oil...sods law im struggling to find any in the uk.


I also remember seeing an advert for slick 50 when i was a teenager,seem to remember them driving a nascar about with no oil and after having slick 50 run through the engine it ran for ages.



I'd be interested if theres anything that anyone reckons is good for keeping the carbs cleaned out.


Shall look up that activ8 stuff see what its about.

[Fazerider]

Aside from the manufacturer's own tests, Activ8 is backed up by nothing better than anecdotal evidence.
While chlorinated hydrocarbons do have known wear-reducing properties at low temperatures, they break down at high ones and produce hydrogen chloride... it's why oil companies don't put the stuff in their products.

[noggythenog]

It seems a bit like taking vitamins,some of them may or may not do anything but some people still feel better just from taking them & if they happen to be healthier than others it could be down to the vitamins or it could be that those type of people are generally healthier types anyway.


So maybe the type of person to add an additive is naturally more thorough or the type to keep their oil topped up & bike in good nick.it's probably hard to prove these things.


Still keen to hear about anyone who swears that an additive has made a difference,in their opinion of course.


I did stick some additive in my tank of super unleaded before i laid the bike up,supposed to protect against harmful effects of modern fuel on the tank and other parts.

[Lawrence]

Wouldn't bother.  If these products made any difference the oil companies would put the stuff in from the start.

[darrsi]

I was expecting negative comments from some people.
But let me just say this, i know my bike the same as a person knows their own body, i'm not the kind of person to just get on the bike and wait for things to seize up or drop off then deal with it (the same as my body fortunately). Any unusual noise, squeak, etc, and i investigate it.
In the case of Activ8 i have noticed a big improvement in gear changing. I'm not dreaming it, if there was no difference at all which is what you're implying, then i would have been totally honest and said don't bother at all, it's a waste of money!
So, unless you've tried it, which you obviously haven't, then how can you comment on the product???
I've not only tried it, and had it in my engine for years, but found it effective enough to buy again, and when you do top it up after 4 oil changes it becomes very noticeable again.
If you don't want to buy it, fair enough, but at least test it first before giving negative comments!  :moon


By the way, there are different ingredients in Slick50, i can't remember what exactly, but it's not the same stuff.

[noggythenog]

Only 1 way to find out so ive ordered some activ8'gonna stick it in the bike next oil change plus will stick some in my wee skoda diesel as it sounds like a bag o spanners in a washing machine on start up,


It seems that the claim is that it likes high temperatures 'activating at 50 degrees c' i fired a couple of the negative points their way to see what retort they can muster up.



Will report back but it'll be a while.

[darrsi]

Only 1 way to find out so ive ordered some activ8'gonna stick it in the bike next oil change plus will stick some in my wee skoda diesel as it sounds like a bag o spanners in a washing machine on start up,


It seems that the claim is that it likes high temperatures 'activating at 50 degrees c' i fired a couple of the negative points their way to see what retort they can muster up.
I will stick my neck out and say i am very confident you will notice a difference, but obviously you should tell it like it is and give an honest opinion. 




Will report back but it'll be a while.

[darrsi]

Obviously i messed up the above reply, it's in the middle!!  :lol 

[noggythenog]

Cheers


Now where's disky???


He just made me spend money :lol

[darrsi]

I forgot to add, the reason i tried it to begin with was because i was impressed by the demo they gave at the Ally Pally bike show years ago.

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[packie]

I was expecting negative comments from some people.
But let me just say this, i know my bike the same as a person knows their own body, i'm not the kind of person to just get on the bike and wait for things to seize up or drop off then deal with it (the same as my body fortunately). Any unusual noise, squeak, etc, and i investigate it.
In the case of Activ8 i have noticed a big improvement in gear changing. I'm not dreaming it, if there was no difference at all which is what you're implying, then i would have been totally honest and said don't bother at all, it's a waste of money!
So, unless you've tried it, which you obviously haven't, then how can you comment on the product???
I've not only tried it, and had it in my engine for years, but found it effective enough to buy again, and when you do top it up after 4 oil changes it becomes very noticeable again.
If you don't want to buy it, fair enough, but at least test it first before giving negative comments!  :moon


By the way, there are different ingredients in Slick50, i can't remember what exactly, but it's not the same stuff.

I reckon I will use only half of it over 4 oil changes or 25k miles which is about 2+ years riding for most. Wouldn't fancy putting the rest of the stuff that is lying around for 2 years old into my engine and expect it to perform 100%. You you dump the leftovers and buy a new bottle after 25k miles?

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg57636#msg57636 date=1360674095]
I was expecting negative comments from some people.
But let me just say this, i know my bike the same as a person knows their own body, i'm not the kind of person to just get on the bike and wait for things to seize up or drop off then deal with it (the same as my body fortunately). Any unusual noise, squeak, etc, and i investigate it.
In the case of Activ8 i have noticed a big improvement in gear changing. I'm not dreaming it, if there was no difference at all which is what you're implying, then i would have been totally honest and said don't bother at all, it's a waste of money!
So, unless you've tried it, which you obviously haven't, then how can you comment on the product???
I've not only tried it, and had it in my engine for years, but found it effective enough to buy again, and when you do top it up after 4 oil changes it becomes very noticeable again.
If you don't want to buy it, fair enough, but at least test it first before giving negative comments!  :moon


By the way, there are different ingredients in Slick50, i can't remember what exactly, but it's not the same stuff.

I reckon I will use only half of it over 4 oil changes or 25k miles which is about 2+ years riding for most. Wouldn't fancy putting the rest of the stuff that is lying around for 2 years old into my engine and expect it to perform 100%. You you dump the leftovers and buy a new bottle after 25k miles?
[/quote]

You stick the lot in first time round, then only half a bottle after your 4th oil change.

[Lawrence]

If you don't want to buy it, fair enough, but at least test it first before giving negative comments!  :moon

No thanks.

http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html  Although Activ8 isn't mentioned on that page, it does talk about lots of other additives.  They're all pointless and in some cases (Slick50 mainly) can cause damage.

[Disky]

Cheers


Now where's disky???


He just made me spend money :lol

think he's just away to the shop,,, he will be back soon

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg57636#msg57636 date=1360674095]
If you don't want to buy it, fair enough, but at least test it first before giving negative comments!  :moon

No thanks.

http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html  Although Activ8 isn't mentioned on that page, it does talk about lots of other additives.  They're all pointless and in some cases (Slick50 mainly) can cause damage.
[/quote]

"...Activ8 isn't mentioned..."

What use is that then???

[Lawrence]

:rolleyes  How is Activ8 any different?

So if these additives are so good, why aren't they in the oil to start with along with the countless other things?

[packie]

[quote author=packie link=topic=6291.msg57657#msg57657 date=1360681956]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=6291.msg57636#msg57636 date=1360674095]
I was expecting negative comments from some people.
But let me just say this, i know my bike the same as a person knows their own body, i'm not the kind of person to just get on the bike and wait for things to seize up or drop off then deal with it (the same as my body fortunately). Any unusual noise, squeak, etc, and i investigate it.
In the case of Activ8 i have noticed a big improvement in gear changing. I'm not dreaming it, if there was no difference at all which is what you're implying, then i would have been totally honest and said don't bother at all, it's a waste of money!
So, unless you've tried it, which you obviously haven't, then how can you comment on the product???
I've not only tried it, and had it in my engine for years, but found it effective enough to buy again, and when you do top it up after 4 oil changes it becomes very noticeable again.
If you don't want to buy it, fair enough, but at least test it first before giving negative comments!  :moon


By the way, there are different ingredients in Slick50, i can't remember what exactly, but it's not the same stuff.

I reckon I will use only half of it over 4 oil changes or 25k miles which is about 2+ years riding for most. Wouldn't fancy putting the rest of the stuff that is lying around for 2 years old into my engine and expect it to perform 100%. You you dump the leftovers and buy a new bottle after 25k miles?
[/quote]

You stick the lot in first time round, then only half a bottle after your 4th oil change.
[/quote]
I think my enquiry would also be relevant as to what happens to the second bottle...no? So do you dump the leftovers on the second bottle or use it again after a long period of time?

Also, what happens even after the first oil change??.....isn't the Activ8 emptied out along with the oil?? I can't get my head around that it is still active and working solid again after one oil change, let alone 3 more oil changes so I can see why some folks are sceptical.  Is there some sort of magnetism in the product that makes it cling to the metal parts and not get flushed out on the oil change, perhaps?...your thoughts?