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Lack of power!
#41
I've had a hornet, bought new in 99. With the 16 inch front wheel, more flickable than the fazer, don't know what newer ones with 17 inch wheel are like, but also more twitchy, doesn't take much to get a dangerous weave going when your giving it some around the bends, could never figure out if it was the tiny alloy frame flexing or the suspension, a tiny bit quicker of the mark than a fazer, and I mean tiny, rubbish tank range, most I had was 95 miles, worst 52 miles, top speed about 130.


Now fazer, I've got the fox eye model, comfiest due to the fairing, more stable and harder to upset in bends, closer to 150 top end, and the brakes are much better than the hornet,


It depends what you want out of a bike, the fazer is more user friendly, better for distance, the hornet made me more of a hooligan, not that I need much encouragement  :evil [size=78%] and hornets don't crash very well [/size] :'(
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#42
(08-01-13, 04:30 PM)Jc72 link Wrote: rubbish tank range, most I had was 95 miles, worst 52 miles :'(
:eek  That's awful!  Best I've had out my the Fazer is around 240 when the light came on.  Under 120 would drive me loopy as that's my commute Big Grin
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#43
lol is this pick on the new fazer rider day!
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#44
(08-01-13, 04:59 PM)comicsans link Wrote: lol is this pick on the new fazer rider day!

No, we're just pointing out a few things to Lewis and suggesting he should persevere with the Fazer.
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#45
iv been riding bikes 24 years now and the fazer is the best all round bike and grin factor iv ever rode its great for the ride to work and back with good fuel econamy and comfort etc and a blast for the summer(wen its here!) for more speed etc,it does everything i need it to do but a restricted one will of course be slower and maybe less fun in some ways but in my opinion the restriction on your(and others)licence is there for good reason as you are learn to ride a bike(and you will keep on learn your life) i sadly lost a friend when he was 18 mainly due to him jumping from a 125 to a 750 and the speed was too much for him and he lost it,i worked up in small stages and im glad i did as these bikes are bloody fun but can be bloody dangerous to newish(and not so newish )riders
id say bide your time with your restrictors and then after you got a couple of years of learn to ride remove restrictors and see how great the fazer is in full power mode,if your a speed freak id sugest go get yourself booked in on a race day at a track as much safer tan been on the road!
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#46
(07-01-13, 11:20 PM)xlewisbdx link Wrote: I had a ride of my mates Hornet today. Hornets my dream bike Smile

I want one, that is all.
and a not so happy Fazer rider  :'(
Aspiring to a lower model of motorcycle  :rollin
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#47
(08-01-13, 07:42 PM)unfazed link Wrote: [quote author=xlewisbdx link=topic=5769.msg50823#msg50823 date=1357597220]
I had a ride of my mates Hornet today. Hornets my dream bike Smile

I want one, that is all.
and a not so happy Fazer rider  :'(
Aspiring to a lower model of motorcycle  :rollin
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My bike is a 1998 his is a 2006
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#48
if you've got ages to go on your restriction get a 250. you're stuck at 33hp so all you can do to improve things is get a lighter bike. plus smaller capacity bikes give you a much greater sensation of speed than larger capacity bikes. doing 60mph on a 250 feels like 100mph on a big bike
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#49
The best review I found of these bikes was in ride magazine, I have it somewhere was a great read. Whilst I'm new to this forum and have only been on an unrestricted licence for a few months myself, I have been riding for 4 years and am lucky enough to have "test ridden" a few mates full power bikes. For me personally, I am extremely pleased that I settled for the Fazer because as a bike it is the best all round package, is comfortable, really is fun to ride and inspires me with confidence. On my budget it was a choice of Fazer, Hornet, SV and dare I say it....bandit.


Hornet from the off was an instant no, I just really didn't feel comfortable on it and thought it was too small (I am 6 foot 4). It is a good little bike no doubt, I agree with the hooligan comment, it is light and powerful but that isn't really my style and I would buy a supermoto for that, plus having a mate crash his at 110mph from a random tank slapper was a big eye opener.  :eek


My dad has an SV, I have ridden it on a few occasions and it is great fun, probably more so than mine in certain situations. Sounds lovely, handles and pulls well but fells a bit weezy the faster you go. His looks great but some look a bit strange in my personal opinion, doesn't feel as well built to me as the Fazer either but would be my 2nd choice.


Not as of yet ridden a bandit but a lot of my friends had them and they all put me off unfortunately. As bikes they all feel very heavy and bulky, plus all my mates crashed theirs for various dodgy reasons, mostly riding like idiots so probably unfair to attribute that directly to the bike. One of my mates does have a nice one though which he bought in May and is the mark 2 faired version, he has never been on a Fazer so we're going to have a little test of each others soon once I weld my down pipes up next week so that I can say I have tried them all. I like his bandit but doubt I would ever own one. Another mates GSX 1400 that he kindly let me try on the other hand! Pwhoar..... Wink
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#50
I'm having more fun on my Fazer than what I did on my ZX-6, probably because I'm not inclined to go everywhere at warp factor 10 and also it's sweet handling.


Now the ZX-6 was a great handling tool but it always wanted more! In the end I thought Foc that, I was going round corners and roundabouts at insane speeds and still never found the limit on public roads.


I chose life!
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#51
(08-01-13, 07:55 PM)xlewisbdx link Wrote: [quote author=unfazed link=topic=5769.msg50903#msg50903 date=1357670558]
[quote author=xlewisbdx link=topic=5769.msg50823#msg50823 date=1357597220]
I had a ride of my mates Hornet today. Hornets my dream bike Smile

I want one, that is all.
and a not so happy Fazer rider  :'(
Aspiring to a lower model of motorcycle  :rollin
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My bike is a 1998 his is a 2006
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Your point is ???  Smile
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#52
It's shiney! And newerererer!
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#53
i had mine restricted havn't herd of the factory restricted ones i took mine out myself i got 110 when they was in that was with head down 33bhp to 95bhp is a big difference when i took them out i couldnt stop smiling, every1 told me to respect the bike and im glad they did.
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#54
(09-01-13, 01:16 AM)xlewisbdx link Wrote: It's shiney! And newerererer!


Elbow grease is what you need......
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#55
(09-01-13, 01:16 AM)xlewisbdx link Wrote: It's shiney! And newerererer!
So you want to upgrade to a shiner newer but lesser bike  :eek
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#56
Just buy some polish.  Or stop worrying about how it looks and just ride it  :lol
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#57
(08-01-13, 12:32 AM)xlewisbdx link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=5769.msg50826#msg50826 date=1357598838]
[quote author=xlewisbdx link=topic=5769.msg50823#msg50823 date=1357597220]
I had a ride of my mates Hornet today. Hornets my dream bike Smile

I want one, that is all.


You can't say that on here, that's blasphemy...... :eek
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Once you have the Fazer de-restricted im more than sure it will give the hornet a run for its money... I opted for a fazer over the hornet due to the fazer been so much better in acceleration and handling....  every one to their own I guess..... :lol

If the price is right when he sells it in May, well, bye bye fazer  :'(
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#58
I had a MK 1 Fazer that I did 30,000 in 3 years on.Loved it but wanted a change so chopped it in for a Honda 600F4. Hornet was a lovely bike but you had to thrash it to get anywhere quickly,however once it was "wound up" it was great fun and very,very quick around the twisties.Let the revs drop though and and you'd have to frantically knock it down a couple of gears.It was pretty much like riding a 2 stroke,a lot "sportier" than the Fazer but in reality no quicker as the Yamaha had vastly superior low and mid-range grunt.Also thrashing a Hornet trashed the fuel consumption and  I once had the fuel light come on 80 miles from a full tank when it was more like 100 in more normal use,still pretty pathetic compared to 180 miles I used to do on my Fazer between fill ups.
Had the Hornet for 3 years as well but to be honest there wasn't much it did that the Fazer didn't do better.It looked a lot nicer and was brilliant around town or for blasting along B roads if you could afford to keep it in petrol but the Fazer was a lot more practical,I'd go anywhere on the Yam,I used to avoid Dual Carriageways on my Hornet,let alone motorways,as it was a pain going up and down through the gearbox all the time and the complete lack of wind protection was a real pain as well.I'd go for the Fazer over a 600 Hornet any day.
I currently ride a 900 Hornet,both previous owners are mates of mine so I've ridden the bike since it was new and can directly compare it to my old Fazer.Well the bikes perform very similarly and the 9 is a lot easier to live with than the 600 Hornet but in all honesty the only way it's significantly better than the old Fazer is with the build quality,over 30,000 miles in all weather,never been garaged and it still runs like new and polishes up like new,my old Fazer wasn't bad but not made to the same standard.600 Hornets after the F3 are made in Italy and whatever Honda will try to tell you about superior build quality I'd say Yamaha are now better with Kawasaki and Honda just above Suzuki.My F4 was a rotbox and I don't neglect my bikes.

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