BT023 Vs PR3

[Andy FZS]

The last tyre's I bought were Dunlop TT100 front Avon Roadrunner rear but I guess things have moved on. Currently running BT020's and they're better than me :rolleyes
Andy

[honmonster2000]

I have just had a set of  BT020's  approx  two weeks old. I did a track day on them and they were great.Gave me lots of grip and Gave me lots of Confidence and I  felt very safe on them. ,, A new set of tyres whatever  make feel good after the old ones start to square off.

[pitternator]

Try the 023, because it is a next generation tyre compared to 020. Just a much better compound mix IMHO, well worth the slight extra spend.I have had dozens of 020 over last 14 yrs on my bikes, I can tell the difference.Its got the grip of a sport styre with the longevity of a touring tyre. Perfect for the road. AND I also rate the dunlop roadsmarts, very similar performance.

[PieEater]

Just replaced my rear 023 for the MOT it lasted less than 3000 miles so that's 25% less mileage than I was getting from the Avon Storm II's. I made the switch because the Storm Front was wearing oddly and I wasn't the only one who had the issue.
With the 023's the bike was slower to tuck in than the Storms and at first I didn't like this but after a while of getting used to them they grew on me offering the usual Bridgestone feeling of predictable and confident handling, they did feel grippier than the storms but I'm not sure this warrents the 25% shorter lifespan.
Next tyre change will be both wheels so I'll be giving a pair of PR2s a go.

[Grandma]

Apologies, I know there are plenty of threads on tyres but struggling to find the comparison I'm after.
Fairly new to on-road riding and still finding my feet but my Gen1 is in need of a new set of rubber.
So...
I am not a commuter, summer tours and quick blasts into North Wales, dry weather only..
Not too worried about how long they last, I am not going to skimp on tyres and it's grip I'm after not longevity (though obviously that would be nice too!)..


Looking through posts looks like BT023 Vs PR3


Can anyone help with what would suit me best? Or have I missed a tyre that would fit the bill better?


Realise it's very subjective but I don't have enough experience to make the call myselp, I just want plenty of grip around those Welsh corners!


Also, best place to get them fitted in or around Chester?


Thanks in advance....

I put Pirelli Angel ST on my Gen 1 Fazer two years and 12,000 miles ago, they still had plenty of wear left when I sold it after riding in all weathers, never gave me a moments doubt. Tried Pirelli Corsa III dual compound on R1 good wear but didn't warm up enough in the winter, came off twice in cold freezing conditions   [/size][/color]went back to Diablo's and still had god wear and much better grip.
[/size][/color]Planning to try Angel ST on Gen 2 Fazer, has Metzlers on which will need replacing soon as they were squaring off when I bought the bike, finding them fine too.

[dickturpin]

The PR2 has been the best I've fitted on the Thou.  Nearly 7000 miles out of a pair and consistent grip/steering right to the end. 

Maybe not the ultimate in wet weather grip (if you believe the marketing hype about the latest generation of tyres) but available cheaper now.

Hope your right Mike...just had a pair fitted yesterday after seeing 7k miles out of my Avon Storm Ultra 2s but just fancied a change! Still got the compulsory 4'' wide chicken strips until I get a few miles on them. I have to say I had no problems with the Avons as some others have had.


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[fireblake]

My only annoyance with these big milages are squaring off, I'm now going around a few roundabouts to try and keep them rounded. The problem with all the motorway usage I suppose?

[Pat]

I've had a set of PR3s on my gen1 for over 6,000 miles now & they still have loads of tread left, I reckon they'll easily be good for over 10,000 which amazes me considering how grippy they are particularly in the wet, I've never gotten much more than 6k out ot a set of bike tyres before.

[pitternator]

how do you get 10k out of a rear ??...FFs, I am chuffed if I get 5 !      :lol

dont think a PR3 would last me 10 k for sure....

[Pat]

how do you get 10k out of a rear ??...FFs, I am chuffed if I get 5 !      :lol

dont think a PR3 would last me 10 k for sure....

Fecked if I know! 

That's what amazes me about the PR3, these have done over 6k & normally I'd have replaced at least the rear by now but somehow there's still plenty of life left in them. It's not just me either,  I  know of other people getting similar big mileages & like yourself was sceptical about the claims until I tried them myself.

To be honest even if I only got 4k from them I'd probably still buy another set as the grip particularly in the wet is so good.  It amuses me when people say they won't buy them 'cos they cost a few quid more when the fact that they last so long means they're probably one of the cheapest tyre options out there. 

[SEPTIKANGEL]

I have just had a set of  BT020's  approx  two weeks old. I did a track day on them and they were great.Gave me lots of grip and Gave me lots of Confidence and I  felt very safe on them. ,, A new set of tyres whatever  make feel good after the old ones start to square off.

Where'd you get them from?  NEW?  What's the manufacture date on the sidewalls, 'cos must admit, I swear by the 020's, but they're old stock aren't they?  May try 23's soon, but am looking at buying another 020 rear 'cos front's still okay.

[bigsteve]

Hi just checked Bridgestone web site ( http://www.bridgestonebikersclub.co.uk/index.php )

  and by the look of it they still offer bt020's new

  I will check tomorrow while at work

[SEPTIKANGEL]

Thanks Bigsteve, I've sent a message to 'GARY' their resident expert and have asked about availability - the 020 may still be sold in places but according to the Bridgestone website, they're not on the recommended list for the Fazer1000!!??!!  I'll let you know when I get the reply.

[pitternator]

Its  alaff aint it !...just how many fazer owners have had 020 s on their bikes...maybe hundreds of thousands of biking miles, without incident.

FFS dont listen to them !...I can heartily endorse the 023, have been using them for last 2 yrs on my fazer , my third set now.Outstanding edge grip, have ground out even the crash bobbins it leans so far.

I will look to try PR3s, but if they dont last significantly longer than 5 k , they are not worth another £40 extra a pair ( which is what my tyre dealers are quoting). TBH all tyres have gone up this year, but Michelins have always been dearer in my locale.I do take yer point about the economic evaluation...but I also factor in how I use my tyres, and I just have never had any grippy tyre last over 5k.Must be my throttle happy hand !  :lol

[Grandma]

http://www.visordown.com/features/michel...18694.html


Will this help from the professionals?
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http://www.ridermagazine.com/gear/pirell...review.htm

[JZS 600]

Just had a 023 fitted on the front,, will let you know how that goes..


Still got the 21 on the back for another few weeks

[bigsteve]

did some checking BT020's are still available due to being OEM tyres for certain models of motorcycles but not showing for fzs 1000
but sizes for Gen1 are available  but there are different suffix's to each model there made for
eg Kawasaki zzr1200 is BT020 AA !!!!!! 

[Falcon 269]

If memory serves me right, the BT-020 fitment for the Fazer was not the same as the 'standard' BT-020 offered for general sale.  Something to do with the stiffness of the carcass.  Can't recall the nomenclature but suffice to say that tyres have moved on a good way since then.  Now't wrong with the original 020 (infinitely better than the MEZ4 the Fazer first came fitted with) but why would you want to fit a 10-year old design of tyre?

FWIW, I have a pair of BT-023 in the garage right now ready to fit to an FJR1300.  Compared with the new PR2s awaiting fitting to my Fazer, the Bridgestones are a helluva lot stiffer in the carcass construction than the Michelins.  Interesting to compare the two types side by side in this way.

[bigsteve]

If the BT023's you've got are BT023GT's they are stiffer carcass by design for heavier bikes

[dazza]

[img alt=Michelin Airless motorcycle tire]http://thekneeslider.com/images/michelinairless.jpg[/img]Do they look like this  :b