REMOVE YOUR HELMET!!!

[Lawrence]

Unless you take your lid off they won't switch on the pump - end of. So that destroys the bikers potentially helping themselves to the till/molesting shopkeepers argument right there.

No it doesn't.  It stops them from getting petrol and molesting the bird behind the till/robbing the place.  If you're just there for the molestation/burglary then you're still good to go 

[His Dudeness]

just ask yourself if you owned a petrol station would you insist on people taking off their helmets or would you be happy to let them in with a helmet on?

[GringoRojo]

I would have all pay at pump only, and one pay at till for all the weekly shoppers.

[Dave48]

With fewer filling stations & escalating pump prices it makes me wonder whos robbing who! :'(  Being an old git with a flip front helmet I have only been asked to remove headgear a few times-not at my regular filling stations. Its a right pain having to queue for fuel & by the time Ive taken off the helmet, removed glasses/picked up ear plug thats fallen on ground it all adds to the time wasted for everyone. In the far-off rosy tinted past I remember petrol stations everywhere & fuel cost a whole lot less. Mind you I  also recall pulling into a garage in Devon & the attendant was about to fill my tank with a lit fag in his mouth-I did ask him to remove that! :rollin :eek

[Rusty]

Mind you I  also recall pulling into a garage in Devon & the attendant was about to fill my tank with a lit fag in his mouth-I did ask him to remove that! :rollin :eek

That happened to me in rural France a few years back, the old guy stood puffing on a roll up ciggie while filling the car.  :lol

[quote author=Rusty link=topic=4459.msg37762#msg37762 date=1346866965]Unless you take your lid off they won't switch on the pump - end of. So that destroys the bikers potentially helping themselves to the till/molesting shopkeepers argument right there.

No it doesn't.  It stops them from getting petrol and molesting the bird behind the till/robbing the place.  If you're just there for the molestation/burglary then you're still good to go  [/quote]


I can't say I'm clued up on the methods used for violent robbery of petrol stations, but I'm certain the modus operandi would not include parking up at the pump first and attempting to fill up on camera. In fact, for a robbery I don't think I'd bother with a helmet at all - too cumbersome, and it restricts peripheral vision. A ski mask would do fine. Perhaps they should stop selling fuel to people with ski's or snowboards on the roof too? I'm not saying they are criminals... just that they might be. That's how it works with us isn't it? 

[Rusty]

just ask yourself if you owned a petrol station would you insist on people taking off their helmets or would you be happy to let them in with a helmet on?

I have been asked to remove my helmet by a night cashier who was locked inside the kiosk, when I was outside pre- paying by card.  :rolleyes
This is the trouble with making sensible rules ostensibly designed to protect people and property, they get interpreted by non-sensible people to mean whatever they feel like making them mean. Sensible rules become silly when applied by non sensible people.


That's why in my view it's no bad thing to challenge them, otherwise they'll introduce more and before you know it you'll live in a world of increasingly petty rules. (Hmmm... come to mention it....) How about 'We don't serve anyone wearing gloves, please remove gloves before paying the cashier'. Justifiable in all shops if you want potential robbers to leave fingerprints, but would in reality lead to little old ladies and children removing their gloves on freezing winters days before they could enter the building. Not what was intended, but no doubt zealously enforced by the 'Im only doing my job' Milgram experiment mentality.

[purplebear7]

  Ref:  Spelling Bee .. Yep .. I've seen that film too.  PB

[Rusty]

  Ref:  Spelling Bee .. Yep .. I've seen that film too.  PB

Ahh.. I just googled it. [size=78%]  [/size][size=78%]"[/size]A [/size][size=78%][/size]spelling bee[/size] is a competition where contestants, usually [color=rgb(11, 0, 128)][/size]children[/color][/size], are asked to [color=rgb(11, 0, 128)][/size]spell[/color][/size] words."
[/size]I wonder what terminology is used for those that spell out the wrong word then? A Malopropism bee perhaps? Or a Malopropism CZAR. :lol

[Dave48]

That will BEE "MALAPROPISM" :lol  then!

[MadDogMcQ]

That will BEE "MALAPROPISM" :lol  then!

:lol :lol

[squiz]

gonna add my tuppenny bit here.....


being from the the isle of man since birth i would object to removeing my helmet to pay for petrol for the same reasons mentioned earlier(religion)  i agree sorta...but
...since moveing to what i believed was and to be honest is a quiet part of the south of the uk i will remove my helmet without arguement when i see a sign requesting it......


lets not forget that it isnt just a ballaclava that armed robbers wear is it?,


my daughter panics when i walk in my own house with it on so i can only imageine that the arse of cashier late at night would be twitching when an un faced person wlks in or upto them..




conclusion..........remove it...for respect.

[chaz]

two instances of wearing a balaclava and sunglasses when I had a trike, no helmet.

first one was in west auckland after "stormin' the castle" my mates had stopped at a shop so I parked the trike up and went to see where they were, as I walked round a corner I nearly bumped in to a woman who started screaming I just kept walking.

second time was when I had filled up at a petrol station and went in to pay the young girl asked if I was robbing it, no I said I just want to pay for the fuel, she asked me if I was sure, she seemed a bit disappointed it was a busy services on the M1 so maybe she was a bit board?

[Rusty]

That will BEE "MALAPROPISM" :lol  then!

I saw that but there's no f'kin edit button. :lol Then again, spell it how you will it can never be confused for Russian nobility. :b

[fireblake]

When I fill up I hold my debit card up as i pull the nozzle out. Then the attendant can at least see I have the means to pay.

[cy8rm4n]

I never go back to a garage that has this policy, unless it's in my car with a baseball cap & sunglasses on just to prove a point.
This whole theft of fuel thing annoys me, why not get people to pay before drawing fuel? The technology exists, many garages use this facility at night. Surely that would stop theft of fuel dead in it's tracks...but no they'd rather waste the taxpayers money reporting these thefts to the police & justifying it as a reason for their ever increasing price rises.

[dx408]

Advantage of a flip front. I would definitely return there and be wearing a burka under the helmet!

Yes I HAVE (flip front) and had no problems not asked to remove it did not even get any funny looks but then again banks have less money than petrol stations these days  :rolleyes

[dx408]

Bugger that should have quoted " would you go into a bank with a crash helmet on"  :rolleyes

[Rusty]

It's occurred to me what's wrong. All this week I have been eating in restaurants, drinking in bars, and enjoying the facilities of various places. None of those places have security cameras, neither are they in evidence on the streets. Last night I ordered peppered steak for two, ice cream desserts, and four pints of lager. It was all served outside, and I could have easily walked away without paying at any time. The bill came to around £50.00 which I paid afterwards When leaving.


If I fuelled the Yamaha up to the brim it wouldn't hold £50 quids worth of fuel yet we are treated as potential thieves. The difference between the two examples is that the first one took place in Majorca where life is lived with the presumption of innocence, and the latter in the UK where the presumption of guilt is the norm. There are thieving bastards everywhere, but in the UK there is the presumption that you are one.

[demic77]

Digging up an old one here, apologies. Went to the bank today on t'fazer, Roof boxer lid so flipped it up. Asian lass (I presume, could have been anyone) in front of me in a burka gets served no problem, my turn, "Please take off the helmet sir"
I think the French have this issue nailed. Fizzing.

démie soixante dix sept.

[fazersharp]

I too was at a petrol station and the tanoy said remove your helmet befor they would activate the pump---- I shrugged my shoulders at them and rode off ----slowley as i needed petrol.
Whats the point in removing the helmet as they have the reg what more do they want a DNA sample for god forbid I ride off with £5.50 worth of fuel.
These stations should be visited by 30 bikes all putting £2 in the tank and refusing to remove helmets, and whilst they are refusing to take all of the £2s every single car is driving by to the next station.
I do not take my helmet off as I have great problems in getting plugs to stay in and on and off with the helmet rips them out.
And I have to take off my glasses and risk them falling on the floor, and every time my lid gos on and off its getting wear and tear, and station that demand my lid off then I ride off and dont go back, I also dont go back there in my car