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petrol stations and lids
#21
My brother and me pulled into a fuel station one time, I got off the bike to fuel up and he stayed on his to fill up. I got served with out a problem, he on the otherhand was told to remove his helmet before he could be served! After much grumbling he took it off and put it on the pump, it was a windy day that day and of course the wind caught his lid and off it went bouncing down the road, so next time someone asks me to remove my lid, I'll just move on to the next station or get off my bike, take my lid off, take it inside and ask them to look after it whilst  I fuel up.
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#22
(17-03-12, 06:14 PM)pilgrim link Wrote: Taking my lid off and puting back on again is a bit more inconvenient, due to the fact that I have hair, quite a lot of it,

Err, so do I, in a pony tail. When I'm out riding I stick a second pony tail band at the bottom.

Yes, it gets messed up a bit when I take my lid off, but it doesn't bother me.
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#23
(17-03-12, 06:14 PM)pilgrim link Wrote: And where are you suppsed to put your expensive lid down anway?

(Missed this bit on the first post, looks like the Mods still don't trust us kiddies with an edit button)

I usually put mine on the flat top of the pump or on the plinth it stands on. 

If you're worried about it being mucky, put your gloves down first, palms up, and put the lid on those.
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#24
What??
Put my gloves down on the crappy dirty floor where all the idiot diesel buyers have spilt their muck and get my gloves covered in crap instead??
Sod that. :lol
Flat top pumps?? What them then? Not round here much mate.
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#25
I think it is impolite to leave one's hat, not to mention helmet, on when entering premises. I always take it off. Put it in my topcase, or carry it in my hand (don't like bikes that don't have topcases Smile  ).

It was interesting once I entered a bank in a hurry and took my helmet just at the door... while wearing balaclava underneath. The look on staff's faces: priceless!  :rollin
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#26
I always use 'pay at the pump' as my local Morrisons makes me take my lid off...
We are born naked wet and hungry and then things get worse....
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#27
I only mind when the sign is on the door, should be on the pump then you
have a choice to carry on lidless or leave
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#28
I fueled up the other day, went in to pay, put my helmet on the counter and got done for indecent behavior :rollin
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#29
Helmet off every time I fill up, not a problem.

As to where to put your helmet, simples, pillion foot peg.  :think
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#30
The 'helmet off' thing seems to evoke a lot of different responses. The reasons given by the filling station are often a bit vague, and usually revolve around being robbed. I'm sure a robber doesn't fill up his bike then walk to the kiosk, wallet in hand. And if they're nicking stuff, aren't they likely to be in a car?

Another reason I've been given is because of drive-offs and being able to identify the person involved. Again a little dubious on that front - how much fuel does a bike hold versus a car, and I'll wager there are more car drive-offs than bike ones.

As you taking your hat off, there's seldom anywhere to put a helmet safely while you're fuelling, and sitting it in the spilt fuel on the ground doesn't seem a good idea, nor does balancing it on the seat.

In the winter, you've sealed yourself in to your kit to keep warm so the last thing you want to do is take off your hat and lose that warmth.

Some filling stations won't switch on the pump if you're still sat astride your bike, and I get that one completely - I really don't want to be pouring highly flammable liquid between my legs: if something goes wrong I want to get as far away as possible as quick as I can! And I think that's got more potential to indicate drive-off intentions.

I know the stations locally to avoid, and I do. I've written to one of them explaining that in the bitterly cold weather I'd rather not freeze my ears off, and got a letter back from the forecourt manager saying he was also a biker and didn't see the problem... I guess he's not an all-year biker...
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#31
i must say, i rode home last nightfrom work, or should say sunday morning and reached the local 24hr garage around 4am, i did for once catch the young girls attention and ask her if she wanted to take my lid off, she greatfully said yes please but let me sit on the bike, once she saw i was female though she also said at the window "we dont get many women riding, dont worry about your helmet next time"
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#32
so that's the answer? speak in a falsetto, wear lippy and have a couple of melons down the front of your jacket.
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#33
I,m always asked to put my helmet back on and close the visor ?
Its just a ride
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#34
I never take my lid off and have never been asked to.  BUT, what I do is park bike and put on centre stand.  Take one glove off and take wallet out from pocket and place on the bike.  I always feel this shows the intention to not quickly ride off (i have to put glove back on and take off centre stand) plus maybe they see the wallet.

Might be coinsidence but as I say, helmet always stays on.
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#35
Have not been out on the bike for a while but went to my local ASDA (now ESSO station) helmet on front up dark visor down sat on the bike gloves off filled up drove off to park by the doors paid no comments what so ever. Would I take it off ? well with the front up and visor up I would argue the point when they could see as much of my face as if I had a Baseball cap on, if there was a sign depending if I was desperate or not maybe find another station, no sign pump authorised then asked to take it off in the shop (depending on the mood I was in) I may refuse but offer to pay, hold my card out showing to the cameras that I am attempting to pay and if they refuse it that is their fault either wait for plod, ask them again to take my payment or leave, from what I would have thought if I have offered to pay and it has been refused then it is not theft (no doubt I am wrong on this and will be told so soon) but after all I can not force a debit card onto them if it was cash you could drop the cash on the desk and walk off (on camera obviously)
The way I look at it is give the relevent information on the pump to allow me to make the choice, after all they manage to display accepted payment methods so why not helmet policy. May be just me being a git but cold wet days can be a pain in the ass esp if you have a D ring rather than the quick release strap.
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#36
i filled up at tesco on Saturday using the pay at the pump thing. any way......i sprayed my self in the face with petrol (dont ask how). it went it my eyes and made my face burn like buggery!

I had my lid on with my visor open, if i had of had my visor closed i would of been o.k

therefore filling up with your helmet on and visor closed is a good idea.
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#37



I always take my lid off, gloves off, get off the bike, put it on it's centre stand and then fill up. I think it does show common courtesy, and I wouldn't wear a hat indoors either, or have a hood up.


Just to show some respect to the attendants who, lets face it, probably put up with enough shit from stupid people being rude and impatient with them all day.


However, I do get really annoyed with car drivers getting impatient while I put all my gear back on before I ride away. It's not like I have never been held up waiting for a pump to become free while someone does lots of shopping, fiddles with the phone or struggles to remember how the flippin thing works. . . . . . . .
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#38
before anyone gets  too high and mighty...a petrol forecourt is private property...we dont have any right to be allowed to fill up. If a station wants to introduce a no helmet rule, its down to them.Legally they do not have to serve us...and can ask us to leave for any reason they choose.
The only way to really protest is to complain to the head office or boycott such garage.But as already stated, for the tiny amount of fuel we use, we R small potatoes ...I was asked to remove my helmet at a morrisons, which at the time did seem a bit annoying, but their fuel is alway sthe cheapest in the area, so to my mind  its now  a condition of sale !...at my normal garage I am there so often they never ask me to remove helmet. Supermarkets also tend to have students operating cash tills, and they do like a bit of power...it goes maybe to some of their heads !  Wink
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#39
maybe not pitternator but they have lost a load of revenue off me and my friends/colluegues and fellow bikers as i drive as well and the missus rides her own bike,
i say again he asked me and the missus to take our helmets off which he had no right to ask the pillion passenger who also had a flip lid on open
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#40
(26-03-12, 04:31 PM)HarryHornby link Wrote:I never take my lid off and have never been asked to.  BUT, what I do is park bike and put on centre stand.  Take one glove off and take wallet out from pocket and place on the bike.  I always feel this shows the intention to not quickly ride off (i have to put glove back on and take off centre stand) plus maybe they see the wallet.

Might be coinsidence but as I say, helmet always stays on.

This is almost what I do, but wallet stays in my jacket pocket! Only ever been asked once to take my lid off -- the first and last time I ever used a Tesco petrol station.

However, I don't get why bikers go into shops etc. leaving lids on. I always remove mine when actually shopping.
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