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Gen 1 fazer - odometer reads in kilometres
#1
Recently bought a 53-reg FZS1000 - loving the bike but noticed something odd about the speedo.
The speedo is in MPH as normal (KMH in small digits), however I've just noticed that the digital odometer and trip recorders are reading kilometres - I measured the distance to the petrol station and compared to what it says in my car - 5.3 in the car, 8.6 on the bike.
Is there a way to re-set this? I've read things about holding in the SELECT button on other Yamahas, but can't find anything definitive for the Fazer.
I disconnected the battery briefly since I bought it - but surely this wouldn't change it from Miles to KM?
Odometer reads 14k - if this is KM and not miles that's no bad thing, but I'm planning on putting a fair few miles on it, and worried the KM reading would go so high it'd become unsellable.
I'm pretty sure it's not an import (any way to check?)
Any suggestions?
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#2
Could you have an imported bike and someone has changed the facia on the speedo to get that to read mph?

I don't think there is a way to change the odo from kilometers to miles without getting to the ecu.
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#3
I guess it could be - any way to check?
Thinking about it there shouldn't be an easy or accidental way of switching from miles to KM, otherwise the total on the odometer would be misleading.
If it does turn out to be an import, is that a bad thing? It's in mint condition considering its age, rides well, etc.
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#4
ring yamaha uk with vin number  they may be able to tell you
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#5
(04-03-12, 06:33 PM)Ddddaveeee link Wrote: If it does turn out to be an import, is that a bad thing? It's in mint condition considering its age, rides well, etc.

No problems unless from France and still restricted, but that is not a real problem.
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#6
Those gen 1 fazer here in singapore specifically year 05 are in KM whereas the rest are in miles.. I think mine is from Italy and it's in Km.
Nick Peh
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#7
(04-03-12, 05:52 PM)Ghoti link Wrote: Could you have an imported bike and someone has changed the facia on the speedo to get that to read mph?

I don't think there is a way to change the odo from kilometers to miles without getting to the ecu.

I meant to say imported CLOCKS.  If for some reason the clocks break, it could be easier to find a set of KMH clocks second hand from an import that has been converted to MPH.

Out of curiousity, are the 2 trips and main odo all out?  I'm not sure but I guess the main odo mileage is stored somewhere different to the trip mileage.  If you disconnect and reconnect the battery the trips get reset, but the main odo does not.  If the main odo is the only bit that is on KPH you may just have a european chip or whatever stores the main mileage.
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#8
I've just spoken to local Yamaha dealer - wasn't that much help, just said look for the word 'imported' on the V5 doc, and said replacing the clocks would be 'several hundred pounds'. I've checked through all the bike paperwork - still has original engine, service history all looks kosha, with stamps from several different dealers.
I guess the clocks might have been replaced and the service book fabricated, unless it has genuinely been recording kilometres from new? In which case the bike has done less than 10,000 miles in 8 yrs, with 5 owners.
I'm going to get back to the trader I bought it from and see what he recommends. I'm happy with the bike, I just want it measuring in miles!
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#9
Forget the dealer, some are ok some are just useless. ring or email yamaha uk directly. i did this with my daughters suzuki a while ago to find out the import details on a bike. also did it with a honda a few years back to.
Yamaha uk can find out the details of any uk registered yamaha. if they dont have the vin on thier data base then its an import.
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#10
Yamaha UK - 01932 358000.  Always been helpful to me in the past.
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#11
I contacted them last week about my imported fazer. I knew it was imported, but didn't know what country it came from. They told me where it was from straight away.  Smile 
If it's broken, it's not fixed.
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#12
I replaced my imported fazers kph clocks for mph clocks and both the odometer and trip readings are in miles. Just checked a known distance! I think that you clocks are kph clocks with mph facia. Make sure that you are doing the speed it states on the clocks! You might end up with speeding tickets :eek  When i got my bike it had a speedo converter plugged into the harness. It simply made the kph clocks read in mph ie 40 kph on the clocks now meant 40 mph. I'm selling it on ebay if its of any use :lol
If it's broken, it's not fixed.
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#13
I think you might be right - KMH speedo with MPH fascia. I've just seen this speedo on ebay taken off a similar age FZS1000 and compared it to mine (photo below).
(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOOK-GENUINE-Y...1e6b5b5e88)
Mine has longer yellow indicators and larger numbers on it, and on closer inspection it also says "REDIAL UK 41" on the bottom.
Thanks for the Yamaha phone number - I'll give them a call tomorrow and see what happens.


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#14
And now just discovered that "Redial UK" used to be a company that provides MPH overlays for KMH speedos.
Now just to find out from Yamaha the origins of the bike, whether that means its restricted, and work out what to do next.
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#15
Fazer 1000's from 2003 onwards had speedos that go up in 10 mph increments. Here is one on ebay, so you can see the difference.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-Fazer-F...555wt_1270
If it's broken, it's not fixed.
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#16
The friendly lady at Yamaha UK has confirmed it's a French import, and had 104bhp when new. She said having an odometer in kilometres is quite common, and not illegal.
  • Clocks: should I just leave them as they are? Guess I could buy those off ebay and put them on when my bike reaches 16,000 - but that's £200. I'm planning a long Euro trip on it in the summer, KM tripmeter might be quite handy!
  • Headlights: They don't appear to dip down either side, I'll check next time I'm out at night - I guess this would have been picked up in previous MOTs.
  • Restriction: I saw a post that mentioned removing the plastic mushrooms from the carbs. Is this quick and easy to do? Saw this and got worried... (http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/carbremoval.html)
  • Legal stuff: Do I need to tell the DVLA? Do I need to tell my insurance?
  • Value: is it worth less?
  • Ask the obvious: Should I just stop worrying about this, and get out and enjoy what is a cracking bike on a nice sunny March morning?!
PS Great forum - thanks for all the help. Thought I should include a photo of the bike (it's not smoke out the back - it was minus 6!)


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(06-03-12, 11:08 AM)Ddddaveeee link Wrote:
  • Clocks: should I just leave them as they are? Guess I could buy those off ebay and put them on when my bike reaches 16,000 - but that's £200. I'm planning a long Euro trip on it in the summer, KM tripmeter might be quite handy![/l][/l][/l][/l]
I'd leave them.  You know it is KM.  May have a minor issue when selling, but the bike has only done 3/5 of the mileage you thought, so that's a bonus.

(06-03-12, 11:08 AM)Ddddaveeee link Wrote:
  • [li]Headlights: They don't appear to dip down either side, I'll check next time I'm out at night - I guess this would have been picked up in previous MOTs.
Mine are flat too.  Never used a beam defelector in Europe.

(06-03-12, 11:08 AM)Ddddaveeee link Wrote:
Not sure about the removal, but if you are going that far I would strongly recommend an Ivanisation (loads of threads on it - search this site for Ivans kit)

(06-03-12, 11:08 AM)Ddddaveeee link Wrote:
  • Legal stuff: Do I need to tell the DVLA? Do I need to tell my insurance?
Don't think DVLA are bothered where it came from.  If it was new, just not officially imported then I don't think any DVLA records will show this.  DVLA will already know if the bike was imported as a second hand bike. 
Insurance will (officially) need to know if you were asked if it is an official UK import and model (sometimes you are asked), if they did not ask, they don't need to know.

(06-03-12, 11:08 AM)Ddddaveeee link Wrote:
  • Value: is it worth less?
Grey imports used to be worth less based on the fact they cost less when new I think, but since the £ weakened against the € there are less and I don't know what the situation is now - but it has done 3/5 of the mileage so...

(06-03-12, 11:08 AM)Ddddaveeee link Wrote:
  • Ask the obvious: Should I just stop worrying about this, and get out and enjoy what is a cracking bike on a nice sunny March morning?!
Probably.  And lets face it, 104bhp is enough for the real world as long as the smell of garlic is not too much  :eek
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#18
Its a doddle to derestrict. Simply remove the carb tops and on the underside of the carb tops are black plastic mushrooms which should pull / twist off. Only thing to be careful about is a small o ring on carb (2) popping off when u remove the carb top. I swapped my euro headlight for a uk one and sold the kph clocks for £60 (ebay post to europe) and bought mph for £70. (1700 more miles)
If it's broken, it's not fixed.
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#19
Dave, try this.

Turn ignition on (don't start engine) push the select and reset switches at the same time for 20 secs, the display should toggle back to mph.
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#20
Thanks, I tried that but that just sets the time, I've also tried a lot of other combos of holding in single buttons with ignition on, off, standing on one leg, but all to no avail.
Think it's just a French bike with an MPH dial overlay which gets it through the MOT.
I was never really into French birds before, but, so long as I eat garlic first, this one handles SWEEEET  Wink
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