Side stand too short

[Jez]

My Gen1 side stand seems too short. The bike leans over at a right jaunty angle. It is stable enough but a worry to put down even on flat ground.

I have measured it thusways: With the stand up I used a tape rule and measured along the center of the stem from the center of the mounting bolt to the flat of the sole. The figure I came up with was 245mm.

Is anyone prepared to get down on the floor and measure theirs for me    ? Is it likely that this is non standard? Are there any longer ones that I can fit?

[bludclot]

mine is also 245mm to the centre of the flat. my bike leans over a little too far to be perfect for me but not so much that i would ever consider it an issue...

i don't imagine it's difficult for a fabricator / welder to make one up for you to your desired length, especially if an ebay special is provded as a start point. once powder coated black it will look pretty standard.

this is not due to a twisted / distorted mount or frame rail is it?

[Ghoti]

Have you got standard dog bones on there?
Mind leans a lot too, but I've jacked the rear up by putting shorter dog bones on. When on the centre stand the rear wheel is only just off the ground.

[PieEater]

Have you got standard dog bones on there?
Mind leans a lot too, but I've jacked the rear up by putting shorter dog bones on. When on the centre stand the rear wheel is only just off the ground.

I don't think anyone would fit a non standard sidestand the most likely cause is as Ghoti suggests the rear of the bike has been raised either through the fitting of non standard dogbones or through a non standard shock that allows height adjustment or in my case both. As well as raising my rear I've also dropped the front forks through the yokes by about 10mm, which has helped make the steering more responsive and I guess has lowered that portion of the bike sufficiently so I have no problems with the side stand. Raising the rear of the bike by using shorter dogbones is a popular mod as the revised geometry makes the soft rear shock that bit firmer and by putting more weight on the front quickens the steering.

[Fazerider]

Is it just that there is too much free play at the pivot?
I had a similar problem and found the hole had worn. Sorted it by building up with weld and filing it back to circular.

[dekker555]

Find yourself a piece of steel the correct thickness, and get a welder to tack it on, job done.

[Jez]

Thanks for the input guys.

At least I know it is the correct item.

There is a little play in the pivot but not much. Also it does seem to extend forward quite a lot so I think I will start by welding a blob on the stop there. Also a thicker 'sole' is in order methinks.

Will let y'all know how this goes. It won't be this week though.

[Jez]

Welded a blob on the forward stop and welded a half inch thick pad on the bottom of the foot. Then 'Smoothrite'd it.

It could still stand up more IMO but it is much steadier. All in all a great improvement.

[phil on a fazer]

Also a thicker 'sole' is in order methinks.

I've always wanted the sole of my side stand not to be thicker...but just to be a tad larger. help spread the weight of the bike and help it to stop sinking into hot tarmac or soft earth e.t.c

I actually like the angle of my side stand, not sure i would want it to "stand up" any more.

Phil

[Jez]

Yeah. Don't know why my bike leans so far, or indeed if it is normal for Fazer.

PieEater suggested dog bones or shock may be non standard but I doubt this in my case as I have done the R6 shock mod with standard length bones.

Good idea about the foot. A fatter foot wouldn't hurt for soft tarmac etc but that is for another day. I am happy with the improvement at the mo'.

[gillette]

Hi gillette here-my fazer thou leans quite a bit especially when my givi top box is on-best way around this is weld a 30mm piece of steel to bottom of stand.
the 30mm thick was made the same size as original stand thus keeping the footprint the same.
Hope this may help.
(By the way i have got the non standard dog bones which makes the bike turn in quick on bends)

[steeeve66]

Mine leans a lot too - looking at it I also worry it looks a little 'slim' and flimsy as well, seems like a lot of weight on such a slim stand

S