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[VNA]

That should be............... would be comic Mr Clarkson.  I forgot the word comic.

Now of course, on any other forum that I've used I'd just edit it.

But for some unfathomable reason, even now it's moved host, there's no edit button on foc-u, so yup I've gotta bore you all with an almost totally pointless posting.

[BIG MAC]

No change there then

[Tiberius Onklevaart]

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Just wait, soon it will be illegal to offend people.

Ehm.....


Its abouut to be passed up here, but only at football matches

[Phil TK]

Ehm.....


Its abouut to be passed up here, but only at football matches

Oh yes, I read about that. Is it going to be illegal to simply offend christians of a different stripe or is it ok to blaspheme against islam in the stadium?
In other words, where does this end and also, who's deciding what is offensive, what isn't and who is being offended and who isn't offended?
Is anyone turning the other cheek?

[VNA]

In other words, where does this end and also, who's deciding what is offensive, what isn't and who is being offended and who isn't offended?

I would have thought that football should be about, well football.

The problem is that some matches are about pure hatred, and in the case of the 'old firm' a stupid religious bigotry that should have been put to bed many years ago.

Now I wonder if you could tell me what is inoffensive about the following;

Hello, hello, we are the Billy boys,
Hello, hello, you'll know us by our noise,
We're up to our knees in Fenian blood,
Surrender or you'll die,
For we are the Brigton Derry boys.

There are many other such songs and chants.  Hardly lends itself to a nice family day out, now does it. 

While many revel in the hatred and inevitable violence (not to mention cost to the tax payer) that follows old firm matches, many others are sick of it, and it's about time football became just that, football.  A great many fans understand this and want it, but if those so called 'hard core' fans can't behave, well then yes, it looks like Scotland is gonna make em behave. 

[Phil TK]

Now I wonder if you could tell me what is inoffensive about the following;

[size=1em]Hello, hello, we are the Billy boys,
Hello, hello, you'll know us by our noise,
We're up to our knees in Fenian blood,
Surrender or you'll die,
For we are the Brigton Derry boys.
[/size]

Dunno, you tell me.
That verse does however contain threats of violence which is a different thing altogether.

[VNA]

That verse does however contain threats of violence which is a different thing altogether.

Can we agree that such 'songs' and ancient history/politics really have no place at a football match?

[Robbie8666]

maybe its because I'm more a rugby fan but i dont ever recall seeing a fight between rival fans at a rugby match,
(in fact only fights i've seen were at the Army Vs Navy game between groups of squaddies, the navy just stood n cheered!), And there is some great rivally between rugby fans,,, oh and yes rugby songs are (were) generally rude but not insulting

[Phil TK]

Can we agree that such 'songs' and ancient history/politics really have no place at a football match?

Of course.

[Grahamm]

maybe its because I'm more a rugby fan but i dont ever recall seeing a fight between rival fans at a rugby match,

AIUI there's similarly no violence in US football or Ice Hockey matches, mostly because there's enough violence on the field of play!

[Oldgit]

Lemmings--as far as I can tell.