Ten year overhaul (a lot of newbie questions)

[SEPTIKANGEL]

i tried some bar risers a while ago. i bought them for my Tenere but put them on the fazer for a bit. A little weird at first but i think they made the position better.

I think the true answer would be bar risers that also move the bars back a TINY bit. and maybe......either rotate the bars up a fraction....or look at some bars that have more of a sweep back effect.

How do these grab ya then? 

[Falcon 269]

What's the story with the linear front fork springs? I upgraded my old FJ1200 with progressive springs, but that was 12 years ago, and I couldn't swear I felt a whole lot of difference afterwards.
Colin

The stock Fazer springs are progressive, too.  It simply means that the initial part of the spring movement is softer than the latter.  They're a compromise acknowledging that riders of many weights and riding styles will have to somehow adapt the forks to best suit them.

In the case of the Gen 1, the compromise is flawed, which doesn't help.  The first part of the spring movement is too soft, the latter part too stiff.  Yeah, call me Goldilocks, but it's true.

You can buy aftermarket progressive springs (Hyperpro are good) which have better-matched spring rates.  However, for a chunky chap such as yourself, a single rate spring (ie, linear) which supports you and the bike correctly for the entire length of the spring stroke is the best way to go.

[gasmenace]

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i tried some bar risers a while ago. i bought them for my Tenere but put them on the fazer for a bit. A little weird at first but i think they made the position better.

I think the true answer would be bar risers that also move the bars back a TINY bit. and maybe......either rotate the bars up a fraction....or look at some bars that have more of a sweep back effect.

How do these grab ya then? 
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I'm looking REALLY closely, but I can't see any bars...

[gasmenace]

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What's the story with the linear front fork springs? I upgraded my old FJ1200 with progressive springs, but that was 12 years ago, and I couldn't swear I felt a whole lot of difference afterwards.
Colin

You can buy aftermarket progressive springs (Hyperpro are good) which have better-matched spring rates.  However, for a chunky chap such as yourself, a single rate spring (ie, linear) which supports you and the bike correctly for the entire length of the spring stroke is the best way to go.
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Any pointers as to where to buy them? Now I've started to buy stuff (R6 rear, Acumen horn) I'm in a spending mood!

[gasmenace]

renthal 754 or 755 mid rise way better on the back same diamentions are the xjr bars used both and stock lines reach
still want higher but love the stock bars then gen 2 risers 25mm taller

And I thought buying a bar riser was simple!

Where do I get gen 2 risers?

[devilsyam]

let me rummage think i have some in the fazer cave

[Falcon 269]

Any pointers as to where to buy them? Now I've started to buy stuff (R6 rear, Acumen horn) I'm in a spending mood!

Find your local/nearest suspension specialist (not a regular dealer, usually) and ask their advice.  Yellow Pages, Google, MCN should get you what you need.

[bludclot]

sounds to me gasmenace that some money would be better spent on a list such as:


- metric socket set
- metric spanners
- set of allen keys
- torque wrench
- pot of standard grease
- penetrating fluid
- microfibre cloths
- cleaner / polisher


then set to work getting to know your bike a little better. even just twenty minutes cleaning a week will make a massive difference to condition and your knowledge of the bike. i can't imagine that 40 quid will buy a proper deep and thorough clean.


quite honestly if you're managing 1500 miles a year the bike is stood still rather a lot. it wouldn't do you or it any harm to learn how to remove the wheels and lubricate some bearings.


no offence intended, just my opinion.

[gasmenace]

sounds to me gasmenace that some money would be better spent on a list such as:


- metric socket set
- metric spanners
- set of allen keys
- torque wrench
- pot of standard grease
- penetrating fluid
- microfibre cloths
- cleaner / polisher


then set to work getting to know your bike a little better. even just twenty minutes cleaning a week will make a massive difference to condition and your knowledge of the bike. i can't imagine that 40 quid will buy a proper deep and thorough clean.


quite honestly if you're managing 1500 miles a year the bike is stood still rather a lot. it wouldn't do you or it any harm to learn how to remove the wheels and lubricate some bearings.


no offence intended, just my opinion.

No offence taken. I just can't be arsed cleaning, lubricating or spannering. Each to their own I suppose.

[gasmenace]

Find your local/nearest suspension specialist (not a regular dealer, usually) and ask their advice.  Yellow Pages, Google, MCN should get you what you need.

Sage advice, which I will follow - Yell and Google's not turning much up near where I live (Carlisle), but I will ask around. I'm sure there will be someone in Newcastle

[gasmenace]

let me rummage think i have some in the fazer cave

That would be great, thanks!

colin

[gasmenace]

Right - current state of play:

Awaiting R6 spring (and a bar riser if I'm lucky!) from devilsyam
Hel brake lines (racing setup) ordered from Wemoto
Hyperpro front springs ordered from The Bay. I'm going for progressive ones in the end

Then once everything arrives here it's off to Penrith Motorcycles for them all to be attached, plus pretty much everything remaining on the original wish list, and a service and new tyres, when things quieten down for the winter - ie soon!

Thanks one and all for the advice.

Colin