ULEZ and how it effects the Gen1:

[dazza]

hi guys

can get a photo on this post but just got my letter from tfl to say mine clear now also

:thumbup

[blackcabbie]

have you still got to send a coc....... mines a usa import and yamaha uk wont supply a coc  against my frame/engine number

[b1k3rdude]

Mines a usa import and yamaha uk wont supply a coc  against my frame/engine number

Same here, hence having to possibly sell it. You and I have the option of taking a £175 punt of that bike shop in hackey - but I have lots of other things I can use £175 on...

[midden]

[quote author=blackcabbie link=topic=24907.msg296221#msg296221 date=1555011461]Mines a usa import and yamaha uk wont supply a coc  against my frame/engine number

Same here, hence having to possibly sell it. You and I have the option of taking a £175 punt of that bike shop in hackey - but I have lots of other things I can use £175 on...

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Have you tried yamusa or probably Yamaha.com?

[midden]

It does puzzle me a bit that the FZS600 with a smaller engine and better fuel consumption with 0.185 is more than double the FZS1000 with 0.09, but hey ho 

600 is missing AIS and exup valve  both probably contribute to the results

[mtread]

[color=rgb(34, 34, 34)]600 is missing AIS and exup valve[/color]

So are most of the 1000s on here 

[midden]

Thanks for this thread. I live in London within the N/S Circular so would be effected by the ULEZ even if i didnt ride in central London, as it is planned to expand to include my house.Emailed Yamaha yesterday and they confirmed by email today that my 2001 FZS1000 has NOx of 0.09(g/km).
Happy to pay the £60 for the certificate proving this.
As with Dazza's communication with TFL, even if it is a long drawn out experience of emailing them and chasing them up....eventually i know my bike will be exempt and so will mean i dont have to sell my beloved Fazer! Or have to move house lol.

Perhaps in two years time you'll qualify for the ridiculous grace period afford those living in the ulez zone.....
Presumably it's thought they won't have  heard about this years ago like the rest of us and need time to prepare

[blackcabbie]

[quote author=b1k3rdude link=topic=24907.msg296235#msg296235 date=1555051200]
[quote author=blackcabbie link=topic=24907.msg296221#msg296221 date=1555011461]Mines a usa import and yamaha uk wont supply a coc  against my frame/engine number

Same here, hence having to possibly sell it. You and I have the option of taking a £175 punt of that bike shop in hackey - but I have lots of other things I can use £175 on...

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Have you tried yamusa or probably Yamaha.com?
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yes i contacted yamaha usa a few months ago.... they were very helpful on the phone and said they could supply a coc...great i thought... however what arrived is a letter stating bike conforms to all federal and state laws..... no mention of a nox level........obviously useless to present to tfl


i was hoping mag would get whole model range exempted, because mine shows fzs1000 on logbook not fz1


if i got it tested at that garage in hackney, it may not pass cos i have removed ais......


any thoughts on this ????

[midden]

[quote author=midden link=topic=24907.msg296250#msg296250 date=1555060041]
[quote author=b1k3rdude link=topic=24907.msg296235#msg296235 date=1555051200]
[quote author=blackcabbie link=topic=24907.msg296221#msg296221 date=1555011461]Mines a usa import and yamaha uk wont supply a coc  against my frame/engine number

Same here, hence having to possibly sell it. You and I have the option of taking a £175 punt of that bike shop in hackey - but I have lots of other things I can use £175 on...

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Have you tried yamusa or probably Yamaha.com?
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yes i contacted yamaha usa a few months ago.... they were very helpful on the phone and said they could supply a coc...great i thought... however what arrived is a letter stating bike conforms to all federal and state laws..... no mention of a nox level........obviously useless to present to tfl


i was hoping mag would get whole model range exempted, because mine shows fzs1000 on logbook not fz1


if i got it tested at that garage in hackney, it may not pass cos i have removed ais......


any thoughts on this ????

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Yeah  refit it     


Have you been back in touch with yam usa  incase they didn't quite understand what you needed

[blackcabbie]

cant refit it cos i dont have the ais  anymore..... dont think contacting yam usa again would do any good...... does the uk coc give a nox value ??

[mtread]

More MAG news http://www.mag-uk.org/en/newsdetail/a7406


It seems TFL have now published details about their acceptance of pre 2007 bikes passing Euro 3 NOx tests. But they require 'evidence from the manufacturer' or a test at the approved garage.


MAG are assuming a CoC each time, but surely a CoC for one FZS1000 covers all FZS1000s (at least of the same model year). So I don't understand why MAG are not collecting CoC details, and then supplying TFL with lists of all bike reg nos all covered by the same CoC? Otherwise it's a lot of sixty quids.  :rolleyes

[g5guzzi]

cant refit it cos i dont have the ais  anymore..... dont think contacting yam usa again would do any good...... does the uk coc give a nox value ??

If you need an ais i have one in the shed not doing any thing.it would need the gaskets that fit on the exhaust stubs.Malc

[blackcabbie]

[quote author=blackcabbie link=topic=24907.msg296368#msg296368 date=1555191545]
cant refit it cos i dont have the ais  anymore..... dont think contacting yam usa again would do any good...... does the uk coc give a nox value ??

If you need an ais i have one in the shed not doing any thing.it would need the gaskets that fit on the exhaust stubs.Malc
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thanks for the offer malc..... very much appreciated......i dont use the bike currently in london, so not desperate for the exemption..... i just wanted it for future proofing so i think i'll wait and see if a block exemption of fzs1000 is likely

[Ripsnortingvtwin]

there's a few of us on here that have got our bike through all 1000's but still had to get our own docs done

[mtread]

But you shouldn't have to. Yamaha are issuing the CoC based on the model, not your specific bike. TFL should be persuaded to exempt all FZS1000s.

[Ripsnortingvtwin]

yes i agree but there a waste of space

[dazza]

But you shouldn't have to. Yamaha are issuing the CoC based on the model, not your specific bike. TFL should be persuaded to exempt all FZS1000s.

That's wrong mtread, Yamaha are issuing the CoC based on individual machines, hence why you have to send a copy of the V5 as well as a photo of the frame and engine numbers.
Again, it comes down to "if you want something done, do it yourself".
If you wait around for TFL to exempt a whole model or MAG to put together a database and get TFL to accept it, something tells me you're going to be waiting a long time and that's if it ever happens.

[mtread]

But I'm sure Yamaha didn't test your individual bike dazza and everybody else's before it left the factory. They tested a sample FZS1000. They want proof of your vin number to be sure it belongs to a FZS1000 and that it cross refers to your reg no.
I agree though, doesn't look like anybody is going to create a database..... but supposing a rider gets a fine, and then proves it is exactly the same model bike as another (ie yours) that has been accepted as exempted. I suggest TFL would lose, and it would put them to much inconvenience.

[old son]

I am still waiting for TFL to respond to me. I’ve sent in everything but heard nothing. I’ve sent two stinking emails to customer support but still nothing. It’s a complete shambles. Typical of anything government related. If they were private business they would be shut down in weeks!!

[mtread]

You've never dealt with N Power then  :eek