Knife/any murders. is it time for capital punishment for those found guilty

[VNA]

Its not even real scotish is it.

Scots is the term you are looking for.

[mtread]

And scotish doesn't even exist. It's Scottish  :lol
Must be one shortbread missing of an entire tin.

[tommyardin]

You get the feeling this thread has been hyjacked.


Back on topic, I have to agree with Ogri48, 5 years for carrying a knife with intent. An 8 inch blade concealed about your person is intent.


Carrying a penknife or a multi tool is not the same as carrying a knife with a blade exceeding 7.62 cm or 3 inches, that is the legal maximum blade size you can carry about your person, but I believe then it has to be folding pocket knife.
If your multi tool has a knife blade that can be locked in the open position it is still illegal to carry it. Any knife that has an automatically opening blade is illegal as is any locking blade knife.
Carrying a knife in the passenger area of a car is unwise, even if it is used for hobby or work related things, best carried in the boot where it can not be reached easily.
The police are not stupid (generally) a lot of Stanley type knives have locking blades the push out of the handle with a shove from a thumb, if you have it in a glove box or door pocket of a car they will be suspicious, if it is in a tool bag or box or even a hobby/ fishing box in the boot it should not be a problem as long as you have not obviously tried to conceal it. Common sense must come into play,
Plus they must make an assessment on the individual concerned

[mtread]

Yep I agree with all of that. It must carry a deterrent punishment, even for carrying a knife 'in defence'. As you say, the police aren't stupid.


But there must be other actions. Good friend of mine has just won an award for her theatre group touring schools with an anti - gang production. Money needs to be spent as well.

[tommyardin]

Yep I agree with all of that. It must carry a deterrent punishment, even for carrying a knife 'in defence'. As you say, the police aren't stupid.


But there must be other actions. Good friend of mine has just won an award for her theatre group touring schools with an anti - gang production. Money needs to be spent as well.

Even carrying a knife as you say 'in defence' the inference there is that you will use it, proving intention.
I could not say 'I am carrying a gun because some police do and they sometimes make mistakes so I am carrying it to defend myself', it is the same with a knife.


Hit the stupid shits hard who carrying an illegal blade longer than the legal size or with a flick action or locking blade, the police recognise muppets, they are the ones who usually mouth off to the police and loudly threaten them, saying shit like 'You are dead hard when there is 3 of you, if you were by yourself I would take you down' It is so easy to talk tough when you know that the police will not give them a chance to have a pop, often because they are on camera, or how would a policeman explain that his prisoner the innocent little victim had had the shit beaten out of him.
Put them in the prison for 5 years and there they can then practice all the mouthing off they want.


I agree with education the Anti-Gang theatre is a brilliant idea for children that are in school or members of clubs, it is deterrent from going down that route, but the idiots already on the streets will never hear that message, or would not want to.